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 Posted 10/03/2015  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Put it on ebay for a price plus free shipping so you get only $5 back. It'll go to a collector who actually needs it.
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 Posted 10/03/2015  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shadz: I really am sorry that you're so hostile.... but there's nothing I can do for you ... you control your emotions - or - your emotions control you... either way nothing that I can say or do will change in that equation.

We're talking about differences of opinion... but I think you're looking at some words and being offended when you really shouldn't be.

The point I made about being a "serious" collector is valid and I stand by it. The question you fail to ask is what makes up a serious collector? What quantifies one as being percieved in my opinion as a serious collector. That my friend has nothing to do with how much you spend on one coin. But has everything to do with what you have INVESTED in the hobby and while one quantifier may be money, there is also time, research and knowledge that in my opinion have greater weight. So please do not make me out to be some facist that thinks you MUST collect in only one way shape or form.
I will have you know that I do coin roll hunt. Because I love it. I seek to find different varieties... because I love it.. I take several notes out from the bank hoping to find a "keeper".... because I LOVE it! And I most certainly don't knock anyone for anything they do that involves this hobby. All I was saying is that the point is valid! Inflation can totally eat away at someone's collection in a very fast way! If you can't understand that simple point then there's no way you can understand the perspective of coinfrog or pacificoin... And while on the topic of those two individuals I should let you know that both of those individuals have provided some fantastic information on this site. I'm personally glad that they're here and contribute to this forum. I know for a fact that at least one of them at one point in their life has actually made a living buying and selling coins. That's not an easy thing to do. And yes it does take a different perspective to be a dealer than a collector, but it's also a perspective that's worth listening to!

I in fact am glad there isn't an ignore function on here... as I would much rather listen and LEARN from multiple perspectives than just read over and over again posts with people that have the same perspectives. If that frustrates YOU... then it is you that has an issue, and I do not nor will I appologise for any of my opinions ... but I will feel sorry if not pity for you as it seems to foster feelings of hostility...

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 Posted 10/03/2015  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, you miss the point that such you define some collectors worth and others not in degrees in which you can call someone "serious".

Here's the thing about collecting be it stamps, paper currency, coins, baseball cards, postcards, WHATEVER: all it takes to be a collector is to keep something for yourself that has a value to you to want to KEEP it. NOT that it may have a value to other people so you can sell it.

Having something to sell is NOT a collector, but a speculator. Be it an art speculator, that bought a painting in the hopes its value would go up, or a comic book speculator, etc.

A, ANY, ALL collectors, collect for the simple reason of the thing has PERSONAL value, NOT MONETARY value.

What you are talking about if NOT a speculation market or for lack of better word a profiteer since they only seek a profit, would be a hoarded.

People hoard silver, and yes silver coins are hoarded because they are silver not because they are coins, for the hopes of increased monetary value. Not because they are coins. The ONLY fact they hoard silver coins is there is ample guides out there to determine a value of the silver unquestionably when dealing with other people. Otherwise they would hoard all silver like jewelry, but jewelry has no real guide to what its value is, the content can ALWAYS be disputed between two people and the only real way to hoard it, would be to melt it into bars of the purest possible. Ergo they are not coin collectors, they are just hoarding silver.

Now that doesn't mean everyone that is keeping every Morgan they can get their hands on is a silver hoarder, but there are many that are, they probably also have a nice "collection" (read hoard) of other bullion in mint released bars or something of the sort that the bought that is recent just to have the silver.

a collector of something doesn't do it because it has a value to someone else, they collect because it has a value to them.

If you would go look at the posts by Coinfrog that you were given links for you would see what I am talking about, but I am sure you did not. Go ahead and tread into the CRH forum and just see where he/she and a few others have simply tried to tell people to "stop CRH". This is not just an opinion when they tell someone they are doing it wrong because it isn't the way this person that wants them to stop is doing, but it bigoted. Just as your comment was bigoted trying to claim some collectors are not "serious" because they don't meet your standards either.

IF you can see both sides, then maybe you should take a step back and look at your elitist commentary and realize the damage it does and stop doing it. Or are you like the other guy that wants others to stop, so you can get what they would have gotten and begrudge them being able to have anything because it reduces the chance to add to your hoard?
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 Posted 10/03/2015  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mayflower2020 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it. I'd put it to the side until I needed to spend it and with $5 that's pretty easy. At one point I had a 100 Star Note. It was part of my Christmas bonus, and eventually I needed to use it, but it was the last $100 of my bonus that I spent.
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 Posted 10/03/2015  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow... your posts directed towards me include name calling and hostility yet I show you none of that. My main point is that there's a difference of opinion and that should be welcomed...

I cannot speak for the others you talk about in the other threads.. nor can control what they or you say... I was merely hoping I could bring to your attention that there are many people.. with many different styles of collecting and many opinions on how to collect.

That is simply my main point... if you wish to carry on this any more it won't be with me... I don't care to discuss things with you. I feel that you're putting words in my mouth, I don't like your tone, hostility or the way you start talking about issues that I nor anyone else have even brought up (ie. silver stacking and hoarding)

I hope you enjoy your collection.. I wish you luck in your coin roll hunting and hope you find many coins that make you happy.... I hope you have a more positive experience on these forums... but if many people start bothering you with them giving their opinions understand that's EXACTLY what this forum is for. If you don't like it... it's you that really has the problem...

This place is supposed to be fun and enjoyable and promoting the hobby.... I appologise to you that I wasn't as diplomatic or well versed with my words and vernacular in my attempt to get my point across.
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