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How I Went Medieval On Siliqua

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 Posted 10/06/2015  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Time and time again I hear calls for Siliqua. A type I did not own until now. Siliqua, a small late Roman silver coin. Yes. In most cases but not in this case. I scored (most of ) a fraction of one of a Siliqua.

Looking around the internet appears that a hoard of these has come to the market. I can find several "gem" examples coming up for sale later this month and next month I am sure the "Sharks" smell blood in the water.

I have a feeling once these are gone, they will be gone forever, limited edition, never to made again collector coins. Your going to want to buy one of these in order to avoid feelings of future regret.

Sirmium,Serbia
Ostrogoths (Gepids)
Theodoric in the name of Anastasius (AD 491-518)
AR Fractional Siliqua
16 mm x 0.64 grams
Obverse: Diademed draped bust right. - DNANASTASIVSPAV
Reverse: Monogram of Theodoric #9840; ROMANI*VINVICTA
Ref: Wroth 74
Note: Full legend, sharp details, clipped (common for type), Uber Rare!



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 Posted 10/07/2015  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin, and I find gem examples of these very attractive, hard to come by and all the money.
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 Posted 10/07/2015  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice coin , very well conserved and not to much clipped.
on the reverse I read :ROMANI*VINVICTA+A.I suppose the cross is the beginning : + A ROMANI * VINVICTA or VIN VICTA? Do you have a translation ? albert
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 Posted 10/07/2015  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice example even after being clipped it still retains it's legend undamaged.
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 Posted 10/07/2015  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question. What your seeing is a blundered legend. The true intent was INVICTA ROMA(NI) " The unconquerable Rome (Romans).
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I think this translation is impossible,even blundered ;
1:the legend begins with A :translation : by,from + ablative : Romano or Romanis
2;Romani :the star indicates the word is ending there,so Roma is impossible , in your second translation it has to be Romanorum (substantive)or Romana (adjective)
3:Vinvicta : no Latin , maybe a name ? I think it is the only possibility , but I don t know much about the Gepids.
Because the obverse legend is correct , I think the reverse is also correct.
I will be back end of next week ,albert
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VERY hard to get one of those!
The first I have seen in nearly 50 years of my numismatic experience.
Helps fill in the historical gap in early Dark Ages.
This makes it a numismatically historic and significant coin.
Museum piece.
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i liked so much your coin that I tried to buy one with success . As usual , I made some research , but now I have more questions than before beginning .
You are right for the legend : invicta roma , but I don t think it is a blundered legend on our coins , because the obverse is correct , there are more dies with the same legend and with the blundered legends it is really clear .As this coins are made after a Byzantine example , maybe the first A (after the cross) is indicating a mint or an officina ? For the NI*V : I have no explanation.
Another problem is the mint Sirmium .As reference is used the work of Wroth , but he has no mint in Sirmium and assigns this coins to the mint of Rome.albert

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ROMANI V(RBS) INVICTA
The city of the romans not defeated
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And yes, itīs sounds like a joke when Roma had been plundered in two attacks (in 410 and in 455) but...
Itīs marketing!
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