Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsVancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Ancient Coin Value

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 1,424Next Topic  
New Member
raiade's Avatar
Canada
22 Posts
 Posted 10/22/2015  01:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add raiade to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you value more on the ancient coin appearance..

The "preservation condition" after minting (Net grade-if the coin is graded by NGC),
or the "minting quality" during minting (Strike, Style, Surface, Star-if the coin is graded by NGC)?

For example, would you pick a gem mint state coin with bad surface, strike, style and etc? Or would you get the same type of coin with excellent minting quality and art, but lack in preservation?

Just in a general sense, cause I know some coins are so rare that no options such both exist.
Pillar of the Community
DavidUK's Avatar
United Kingdom
2624 Posts
 Posted 10/22/2015  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me it is purely down to eye appeal.

I prefer a well centred coin with good details and a nice patina. I only buy raw coins and would seek to avoid those graded and slabbed (I am English and we famously dislike the practice, for a modern coin I can accept that it goes on but no need to incase ancient coins in plastic)

When I look at archaic coins sometimes one just speaks to me and jumps out. It is a mixture of all the factors you listed as well as value for money (all things being equal sometimes a coin is just priced so reasonably you couldn't refuse to buy it)

These things do depend a little on the kind of coin too. For a common Roman bronze where there are plenty available I would seek one with excellent details and no wear... for a rarer Greek silver such a coin might be beyond my budget so I would seek something nice but perhaps with a test cut in it or some wear (assuming it still has good eye appeal)

This is the difference between ancients and modern coinage... there is no set formula for ancients. Each coin is different and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 10/22/2015  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with David that eye appeal is how I choose. Well centered, well struck and a nice patina is also important but you have to know a bit about the coin type that you are going after. Some types where not struck well and even struck on small flans where most of the design is missing. This is the case on some of the Eastern empire types so in that case you might not find a coin with a lot of eye appeal but it might be a rare type in any grade. Unless the coin is a very rare type in very high grade I shutter when I see and ancient coin in a slab. They were meant to be handled and locked away behind plastic.
Bedrock of the Community
sel_69l's Avatar
Australia
21788 Posts
 Posted 10/22/2015  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me when it comes to appearance,
it's a combination condition and completeness of information (strike).
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16850 Posts
 Posted 10/23/2015  06:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, "gem mint state" and "ancient coin" are mutually exclusive phrases; a coin can be one, or the other, but not both. The grading companies tend not to agree with me on this, of course.

For me, and for many collectors, a key component of value is whether or not the "key details" of a coin are present and clearly visible or readable. Eg. for Roman coins, the most important thing for most collectors is the Emperor's name. For Athenian owls, it's the owl. For Roman Provincial coins, it's the name of the city. And so on.

Coins on which these key details are missing (either off-the flan or worn/corroded away) are much less valued than coins on which these details are clear and sharp.

Some time ago, I bought a coin of one of the rarer Roman emperors - Galba, I believe - on which only the last letter of his actual name was visible. It was much cheaper than otherwise-identical coins of Galba on which the name could be clearly and entirely read.

Of course, it's entirely possible to align your collecting goals so that the things that are "key details" to you are different; if you collect Roman coins by portrait, for example, rathe than name, you can add to your collection fairly cheaply by buying coins that have no name, but excellent portraits.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
New Member
raiade's Avatar
Canada
22 Posts
 Posted 10/24/2015  04:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add raiade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very enlightening! thanks for the input
  Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 1,424Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.27 seconds to rattle this change. Forums