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 Posted 10/30/2015  09:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LukeFisher93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Picked this beauty up earlier this week. I'm thinking aVF if I'm lucky?
It's in a 2x2 at the moment so pictures are alittle icky.


1913-One-Florin

1913-One-Florin
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 Posted 10/30/2015  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin which I would grade as fine and it looks to
have had a clean at some stage
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 Posted 10/30/2015  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I with Stevo1962's opinion.
Dates before the Melbourne Mint started operations in 1916 are a little pricier.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LukeFisher
This forum has given accurate grading for your coins.
These exact same coins are listed on ebay and they are overgraded.
EG We graded your 1930 halfpenny gVF but its listed for sale as aUNC-UNC.
What is the point of grading this one ?
You are only going to disregard what we say and list them as your grade anyway.
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 Posted 10/30/2015  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LukeFisher93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@stevo how can you tell a coin like this has been cleaned if I may ask?
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10/31/2015 12:00 am
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I would have imagined if it were cleaned they would have picked the dirt out of the 3. Tiny abrasions on the surface are what will let you know it was cleaned, but I certainly couldn't see from this photo, so I am interested to hear how it can be known too.
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 Posted 10/31/2015  02:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I was a kid, I cleaned coins using a rag and non abrasive metal polish.
Quite often, there was black residue left behind in the lettering. In almost all cases, almost all mint lustre is lost, except perhaps some some small areas in the legends.
This coin was worn to begin with, and appears to have suffered such treatment by some unknowing person. It has re patinated since then.

The flat dull nature of the fields as well as the worn down high areas of the design suggest this to me.
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 Posted 10/31/2015  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that explanation sel. The worn down high area's are particularly evident on the crown but how do we know this is from polishing rather than from circulation? I mean surely the luster can be lost from many fingers as well as cloth? (I am playing devils advocate here)
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You are right; lustre can be lost from either polishing or wear.
I have seen almost all lustre lost from non abrasive metal polish on a freshly minted coin.
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 Posted 11/01/2015  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow its EF
And it hasnt been cleaned !


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1913-1-o...252151762929
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 Posted 11/01/2015  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wow its EF
And it hasnt been cleaned !


That is a bit concerning, especially when the consensus here was F cleaned.
If this coin sells expect it to be returned for a refund and also expect some neg feedback.
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its a shame there are so many dodgy people out there, hopefully some newbie doesn't get burnt with one of these
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 Posted 11/01/2015  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@stevo how can you tell a coin like this has been cleaned if I may ask?


It is relatively dirt free and has no patina.A coin that is 100+ years old would collect all sorts of grime and dirt considering it is very well circulated so should have a dirty look about it
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 Posted 11/01/2015  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
he has given a clear not as described return reason with his description "I would grade this coin EF. 6 Pearls + Full Diamond"
clearly no diamond on this coin
having said this I think this account is a clear fraudster with the fake 1938 crown and 34/35 florin he has for sale
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 Posted 11/01/2015  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
His US coins dont look too good also
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 Posted 07/24/2017  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serenitystan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for being to honest. But really its a piece of junk.
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