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You Vs ICCS: 1950 1 Cent

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Will post results tomorrow. It'll be though to see through those scratches on the flap

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ICCS-SP-64 Red or red brown.
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SP-65... Nice coin
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I'm at SP-64RB.
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I agree with coinfrog.
The Canadian master dies for George V1 effigy were more finely detailed than for the British homeland and other British Commonwealth countries.
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I don't like the rims - I have a specimen 1950 cent and it does not look anything like this one... those fields should be like mirrors (I did notice that posted in the other sub-forum about 1950 specimen set populations)...

If it is a specimen strike, then the only thing I can think is that you are showing scanner images, and not photographs...
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If it is a specimen strike, then the only thing I can think is that you are showing scanner images, and not photographs...


Unfortunately these are photographs and not scans. It is in fact a specimen strike. ICCS said SP64. Which is also the reason I posted it here.


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those fields should be like mirrors


The fields do not have the mirror look I am used to in the few other George VI specimens that I have. However, looking at the lettering (especially under a magnifier), I can tell it has the characteristics of a specimen strike. Very sharp/squared, defined lettering. Not too sure what to do with it
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ICCS said SP64.


ICCS is not always right... just saying'

Bring it to a major coin show, where Sandy Campbell is set up as a dealer, and show it to him. He has seen more George VI specimen coins than anyone else, and see what he says...
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ICCS is not always right... just saying'


That I'm sure of. I've spotted some mistakes a couple of times that luckily ended in my favour.

As for Sandy, I'll show to it him in May at the Toronto expo
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As for Sandy, I'll show to it him in May at the Toronto expo


Hey if you are at the Coin Expo, pop by my table to say 'hello' as well...
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spp-ottawa, how would PCGS deal with this coin? I have a feeling that they would not be as forgiving of the reverse as ICCS...
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Difficult to say - I have yet to send my George VI specimen cents to PCGS... the 64 grade is probably good, but they might call it red-brown.
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If your concerned about it not being a proof specimen strike, I'd sent it to PCGS IMHO. On top of being 100% sure, the slab gives it extra protection from wear and scratches that could occur when the coin is in the ICCS "bag".

EDIT: not a proof coin... ment to say specimen. Oops!
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Would not the carbon spots affect the grade especially PCGS, where eye appeal is important.
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Would not the carbon spots affect the grade especially PCGS


I think at a 64, it wouldn't really affect the whole eye appeal aspect. That being said, I think any higher would definitely have eye appeal impact the grade. But I can't say this for sure because I haven't sent any coins to PCGS yet.


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If your concerned about it not being a proof specimen strike, I'd sent it to PCGS IMHO


I will once I get enough to make it worth sending to PCGS
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