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1859 Canadian Penny; Copper Or Brass?

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 Posted 12/30/2015  1:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add timeismoney333 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Recently came into some old large canadian pennies. Wondering if I can get some expert opinions about the coin I have.
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 Posted 12/30/2015  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many experts on this site but will need a good picture of reverse and obverse
to determine anything.
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to CCF!

In order to determine what you have, clear pictures of both sides of the coins will be required.

You can use this tool for uploading pictures:http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...g_images.asp

Also, to determine composition, the weight of the coins will be very helpful. Many inexpensive digital scales are available online.

Handle the coins carefully, wash your hands to remove oils and handle the coins by the rims only. Cotton gloves are preferred. Do not attempt to clean the coins.

Learning about new coins can be a lot of fun, you never know what you could have! 1859 large cents are highly collectable. Have fun!
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Actually for this rarity of a coin, and the incredibly hard task to determine between brass and copper on patina coins with only pictures, the only true 100% for sure test is to have the coin xrf tested to see what it is made of.

there is at least one member on this forum who would be willing to help you out with this, if you can get the coin to him, SPP-Ottawa. But I would imagine there would be others in the USA that could do it for you, or you could send it in to a TPG and have it graded and scanned.

If you post pictures we can at least give you our thoughts on the coin, but truly it would only be best guess.
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Brass are extremely rare...

None are copper.

All the others, most likely including yours, are bronze.
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As mentioned above, we need good direct pics directly on the coin, both sides with no tilt. Then we need diameter and weight. An XRF is the best way, but some of us have looked at 10's of thousands of these and can tell at a glance what it is ... .and it's almost 99.9% sure that it's bronze, cleaned or uncleaned.
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thanks for the insight. sorry I was trying to upload on my mobile phone couldn't resize. I'll take a few better pictures with an iPhone.

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hey timeismoney333,
Your coin seems to be in decent shape but unfortunately, better pictures will be needed. I personally never had much luck with the cropping feature on CCF so I crop with a program before. There's a decent, free program called Picasa3 that I use. This may help you. Also, I suggest putting the coin on a flat surface, like a table or a book and taking a still photo from directly above the coin with good lighting. There is a section in this forum specific to photography that may help you: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...?FORUM_ID=81
The 1859 has many (valuable) varieties and people on here will give you a definite answer. It will just take more time but as your avatar suggests, time is money!
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Looks like a typical bronze example to me. There are scarce die pairings out there, and good pictures of each side will help...
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Looks like bronze, definitely, to me as well. A good stationary shot of the Reverse would tell us something concerning any scarcer variety.
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