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spider3 New Member France 1 Posts	Posted 01/11/2016 1:35 pm Hello from France I have this coin, an Oliver Cromwell farthing I believe. Diameter near 21 mm, weight 3,53g, copper. It seems to be a real coin but I would like to have your opinion about it, fake or real? An idea about the value? Thanks for your help because it is difficult to find information in my country about this coin. Regards Report this Post to the Staff

JohnDeVito Valued Member United States 196 Posts	Posted 01/11/2016 2:38 pm Looking up the motto, perhaps... http://24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=...iptions.html http://www.coinsgb.com/Cromwell/4-Farthing.html http://cromwellcoins.com/html/rogues_gallery.html The only place I was seeing a picture of the coin with that motto was of a forgery. Seems that they are extremely rare. Report this Post to the Staff
fourmack Pillar of the Community New Zealand 1679 Posts	Posted 01/11/2016 3:12 pm Heres 1 for sale http://www.baldwin.co.uk/coins/grea....html?usrc=1 Cheers Don Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more Report this Post to the Staff
bpoc1 Rest in Peace United States 4078 Posts	Posted 01/11/2016 3:33 pm Spider3, to CCF. This is or could be an amazing coin. IMHO Sorry I do not know how to tell the real from fake. Lets see what other CC members think. Fourmack and JohnDeVito thanks for posting the links. We will see. Report this Post to the Staff
rob_ccs New Member Australia 36 Posts	Posted 03/20/2016 05:35 am I wish I owned it. The Peck (English Copper, Tin & Bronze coins in the British Museum) lists this as #390 Pattern Farthing (edge plain, diameter 22mm) It's apparently an official pattern struck in 1658 (or possibly, late 1657). The discrepancy in diameters is probably immaterial - I'm assuming that it was struck without a collar - in which case a stronger strike is likely to result in a greater diameter (evident in the "stretched tooth borders" in later copper issues) Report this Post to the Staff
billjones Pillar of the Community United States 1499 Posts	Posted 03/20/2016 1:54 pm I am a novice British collector, but I've been collecting U.S. coins for over 55 years. This coin looks suspicious to me. The surfaces do not appear to have that much wear, yet the bust of Cromwell has no fine detail, and the center of the reverse design is missing. Quite often counterfeiters lose this sort of detail when they try to make a copy from a real coin. This example is very extreme of that, but my judgment is that the piece is a counterfeit. As some of you know, I am collecting one coin for each English king or in this "leader." Call me crazy. Here is a genuine Cromwell shilling. This piece would grade VF-EF using American standards. NGC called it EF-45. No matter it's a pretty nice coin. Report this Post to the Staff
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