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i am looking for opinions of value a 1967 dollar in EF-AU condition with upset dies. all help is appreciated and sorry for no pics, I have not seen the coin, lets assume the pricing is for an average looking example of the grade. Feel free to call me Will.
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TCNC auctioned one at RCNA Winnipeg a ms 63 or 64 a beautiful coin in hand for over 10000.00 plus juice and a year latter either TCNC or some other auction a similar coin for about the same price. According to Marc there are 7 to 9 pieces.
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I thought they all came from PL sets... Cool. I wouldn't have a clue as to the value, but if I seen it, I would be willing to spend $1500 or so on it.
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I wouldn't take TCNC's word on anything from their auctions. Get an opinion from someone who was actually at the auctions and saw it, or better yet, the coin's history
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Feel free to call me Will.
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Was at the WINNIPEG RCNA auction saw this coin in hand, it was a beauty, thought it was worth 3 to 4 thousand, couldn't get a bid in it was over 5000 and on it's way to over 10,000, never asked about the history but like all the 67 dollars probably custom made but a cool looking upside down goose. If you have access to one for under 5 grand you won't lose on this variety unless it's in terrible condition.
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5Gs wow. That's intense. I guess it depends how badly you want one. Realistically they are all overpriced. I do love rotated die errors, but its a well known fact that there is a lot of die rotations in 67... It's just like the 92 NB quarter... But You can get those for $150 each. Upset dies on most coins will almost always bring a hefty premium but it seems ridiculous to pay that much for it. If I chose to spend $5000 on a single coin, I'd much rather have a 21 nickel.
That's my 2 cents
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There are rolls and rolls of the upset die NB 25 cent, and quite a few diving goose but very few upset die dollars and the constitution dollars, the market place always speak. At the first Legacy sale a 67 penny upset die went for an insane amount, can't remember the amount though.
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Im Not really trying to compare the 92 with the 67, I'm more so saying a die rotation is a die rotation, any coin can be rotated to any degree if the die was loose. I have a 1951 penny, 167° rotated in F15 (ICCS) my best offer on it was $60! I also have a 1963 penny with that same rotation in MS63 and I am offered 200...
I personally don't think any rotated die coin should ever be worth $5000+
The fact that it's a 67 gives it a cool factor. Especially if your building a type set with every known rotation and double strike variation so there has to be a premium there... Not that much tho!
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Just another note about that legacy sale with the 67 penny... I was at the auction... I don't recall seeing an upset die, but there was another one... It was ( as they said) 70-80° rotation. I bought it for $220 I believe. It came in at 67° when I measured it.
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My memory is not as good as it once was but there was a 67 penny upset die sold at one of the auctions last year for a wicked price, but like I said hard to argue with market place.
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thedollarman I have started to do a study on the 1968 and 1969 nickel dollars. some members have give a lot of there sets to check for them. can you tell me was there ever a 1967 wild goose ever struck on a different metal. I can not find any thing. a very much older gentle man has a 1967 wild goose that is pure black. it just don't look right. any thoughts. I told him he needs to get it weighted.
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Almost a lot of things were custom made with the 67 dollar, but never seen one on a off metal, the black is due to bad storage, you see silver dollars toned dark black in dealers show cases, every so often.
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Rocky, I did some searching awhile ago when I found a 67 quarter that looked to me like it was nickel instead of silver. There were apparently test coins made in 67 in the 99% nickel for the quarter, how many, I could not find that information. if they tested the quarter, then dollars to donuts they tested the dollar as well.
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john I am not saying you are wrong. see I have some of them here. 2 are toned black. this coin is different. if I did not know better. I would think this coin is platinum. the look of it the colour. he don't let it out of his sight. I agree with him. it is certainly unite. I was just wondering did they make a coin as gifts for some people or awards. I will try to convince him to let me photography it. if I get the chance you will see what I mean.
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There are a few test 25 cents bobcat struck on nickel planchets, they look like a normal 25 cents, I don't believe the RCM was using platinum at the time. Depending were you are located some large bullion and coin dealers will have an XRF to xray a coin he would have the answer but my first guess is most likely, if you are in Toronto area Canadian Coin has a machine.
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