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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bobby take a look at the 1918/7-S 25c 182003578519 Sold in 2014 for $24,675 at Heritage http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-li...Lot=1x=0&y=0And checking the certification number at CAC, it's not in their database, meaning they have never applied a sticker to the holder. Highly doubt that someone would sell a $25,000 for $1200+ |
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Nice work. I've forwarded all this info to my contact. I'll think we'll see it all disappear.
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Valued Member
 United States
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waiting to see what happens here.. A few years back on ebay , they were selling what they said were copies of coins that were marked copy.. I bought a few of these just to see what they were . They were about $2 each. To my surprise some looked really good and none of them were marked COPY.. I keep these as a learning tool so you know whats out there.. I think the Indian Head cents were some of the best copies I had seen.. Many copies were easy to tell they were fake like dies not common for the year.. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Biedercoins The rating of the seller is 100% but sometimes people give positive feedback while acknowledging the coin received was a fake. Also Neutrals do not effect the percentage. The ebay policy removes the numbers of older feedbacks from the summary making it look like all the results were positive when they were not. Quoted below are 3 of 5 feedbacks involving fake coins. Quote:
la piece etait une copie , evalution possitive en respect des conditions command
Excellent eBayeur, envoi rapide. Attention il pourrait s'agir d'une fausse pièce
ses pieces sont fausse assez bien Of course then there are the unbelievable auctions - who sells very rare costly coins for only a fraction of value?
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't see how it is a stolen picture since the seller is holding a slip of paper with his username on it in the photo. I believe you will receive the coin pictured. I think that logic can be applied in reverse. I frequent ebay and rarely do you see anyone holding the items with a dated piece of paper trying to prove that the photos are real. That looks a little bit like overcompensating and can be deemed suspicious in and of itself.  |
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Forum Dad
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Forum Dad
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They no longer have anything to lose. They no longer have supportive staff at ebay willing to take on the big guys - like (Not Allowed) in Beijing where most of the money ends up going. The people at ebay are performing as little as possible to make it look like they care. Their only objective is to make money - buyers are absolutely on their own. Let the buyer beware is the law of ebay. |
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Forum Dad
United States
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Quote:They no longer have supportive staff at ebay willing to take on the big guys Says you. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes I do say so - ebay eliminated 38 positions all experts in our own areas and replaced us with two new managers with ZERO expertise. They went from hundreds of accounts TERMINATED a week and thousands of auctions stopped to what? Rampant fraud. They now act only on "special requests". A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I reported 12 obvious Chinese fakes ALL involving the identical coin to ebay using the report feature - they all survived to the end. The following week I personally wrote to 8 sellers who had posted the same coin. I got three to stop their auctions just by letting them know the coins were forgeries. I also note that you removed the name of the big player that ebay was afraid of from Beijing from my last post. I think most people familiar with forgeries and the people who mass produce them in China know the name. Less than a month after we (the committee and two lower level ebay managers) proved that the money traced back to that address we were all let go. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Very interesting Bob and really no surprise. ebay is full of products from that area of the globe. |
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Forum Dad
United States
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Yes I do say so I, personally, get about 750 listings a day removed (sometimes thousands), whether you believe it or not and there are many others involved too. Maybe they just didn't like the counterfeit fans that pick and choose what that were doing the job before. Quote:I also note that you removed the name of the big player that ebay was afraid of from Beijing from my last post. Forum software removes the name and all links automatically. I'm not going to let over 100K pairs of eyeballs see where to buy counterfeits every day, that would be almost as irresponsible as buying and selling counterfeits myself. The direct reporting link for the public is working much better now as well. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The direct reporting link for the public is working much better now as well. Do you mean the "report this auction" link they have in every listing, or a different direct link like they used to have? |
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Forum Dad
United States
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Same one they've always had in the listings.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As a test, I will do the same thing I did a couple weeks ago. I will report a series of Numismatic Forgeries and see if the Report feature works. I will report my finding when done. The comment Quote:
Maybe they just didn't like the counterfeit fans that pick and choose what [sic: they report] that were doing the job before.
That sounds like a new ebay defense as to why the committee was terminated. All committee members (I believe) acknowledged that there were collectable counterfeit coins and that the ebay policy was technically incorrect. However, on reported items the votes were always based on the actual status of the coin itself. There were many contemporary counterfeits reported and terminated - unfortunately. My objections to policy were directed at ebay but I never called a counterfeit genuine. I did personally report only Numismatic Forgeries (by the thousands) - that should not be an issue - since I was not required to report any violations on my own. We were tasked with voting on REPORTED Items only. So if that is what anyone is saying please tell them that in my case at least that selective voting was NOT PRACTICED. |
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