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1962 Small Cent Missing Detail In Leaf

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Found this while searching rolls. Not sure what caused the lack of detail in the one leaf.

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Could it have been cause by die polishing?
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Could it have been cause by die polishing?


I first posted the photo in a Coin Roll Hunting thread and someone else also mentioned die polishing as a possibility.

You can see that the lack of detail also extends below where the point of the other leaf overlaps. I've looked at a lot of small cents and this one appears odd to me for another reason as well. The fields are darker except for the areas close to the devices. Like a cleaned coin but reversed. There are clearly visable traces of some kind of residue surrounding the devices. It makes me wonder if a chemical reaction has taken place which caused this but I'm not sure.
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I believe the proper terminology for this is filling on left leaf although I couldn't find a number designated to it. Filling on the right leaf is designated as number #2668. Scroll down the page and you'll see the list of minor errors/varieties, click it and there are pics to compare with.

Thanks pennyman for the heads up there.

http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1953-1964

This link tells how this can happen.
http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...filling&id=8
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The hangers listed alone tells me there where plenty of die clashes happening which means lots of die restoration, polishing ect going on. IMO

I dont believe those are zoell numbers, they mention when using zoell, they might be C&Cs numbers.
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Hi o-train,

Here's that 'shiner' I was talking about with the Jefferson I have. I have two that I recall - odd how the details were flattened in that area. Perhaps filling?


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Over polished dies. Devices close to the fields, or near the same elevation on the die surface, are affected.
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Thanks.
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Thanks for all the responses everyone. I will keep an eye out for more examples now that I know what to look for.
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1977 is a common year to see over polished reverse dies. Here is one from my collection.

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I dont believe those are zoell numbers, they mention when using zoell, they might be C&Cs numbers.



Hello

To clarify the meaning pictures of the numbers here:

These are numbers that are a result recognition awarded for each picture, no matter the denomination, which is used to track these photos by the administrator of Coins and Canada.

I notice as often as CCF forum members uses the site
http://www.coinsandcanada.com/index.php
to see photos of the defects on parts.

If you go to the site in French
http://www.numicanada.com/pieces-de...nt-1953-1964

you can for each defect that has a number of photos to see the same flaws and comments that there was.

If I take for example that red and I click on the arrow you can enter often to other pictures.

http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...8406&start=0

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Defects already identified by Zoell are written in black on the same line.


PS: I made this comment for the sole purpose of helping those who want to see more.
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Thanks for the confirmation on the numbers Castor.

That 77 is a fine example I've also seen quite a bit of it on 79s.
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It's an interesting look. I'll have to check my small Canadian Cent stash!
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