1888 Turner Obverse "o2-S"

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Hounddog Bill Pillar of the Community Canada 1223 Posts	Posted 03/25/2016 10:51 pm I was recently rereading my copy of Rob Turners Dies & Diadems and know the last obverse dies for 1888 were made from sub-punch O2S. The same O2S sub punch would make all 1891 obverse 2 dies and some more dies for the 1892 coinage. I'm pumped because I picked this up recently, these are really not that plentiful. I've been tracking the O2S Obverse for some time and have come to the conclusion there were only three O2S dies used in 1888. Considering there were 4 million 1888's minted and the number of dies that would have been required only three dies is quite low. Mr Turner has also estimated they minted about 6% of the 4 million coins. This is one of the possible three 1888's minted by an O2S Die. The distinguishing features that set the O2S apart from most 1888's in the top serif on the "D" in "CANADA" missing and the bottom stand on the left leg of the "N" in REGINA" missing. I just thought I'd bring this up and see if anyone else is studying Rob Turners Works? Cheers, Bill. Report this Post to the Staff

JHax Valued Member United States 302 Posts	Posted 03/26/2016 3:01 pm Yes, I've been carefully studying Dies & Diadems and will be publishing a major work of my own on the Canadian Victorian large cent master tools in a few months. I also find the 1888 with the broken stand to the N in REGINA fairly scarce. Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 03/26/2016 3:03 pm I have 10 of them (1888 broken N Regina)...I'm estimating it as R4 (76-200 known)... Report this Post to the Staff
Hounddog Bill Pillar of the Community Canada 1223 Posts	Posted 03/26/2016 4:02 pm I look forward to reading both you and CV's works when they're published. JHax & CV I appreciate the reply. I've also found another 1888 obverse that is not that easily obtained the Turner number is O2P. These were made with the same subpunch used at the end of 1887 and they have all their serifs intact. Turner has this one also at approximately 6% of the population and after studying these I've only been able to document 2 different obverse dies for sure but there may be more. With this said I've found the 1888 with no missing serifs slightly more difficult to find. I have 12 of the O2S and 8 of the O2P die, these were found while searching from a pool of 700 1888 coins. CV you mention rarity factors in some of your replies are you going to have rarity factors in your book? Cheers, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 03/26/2016 4:30 pm Hi Bill... yes...I will use the Sheldon Rarity Scale in all 4 books... Report this Post to the Staff
graval New Member Canada 28 Posts	Posted 03/26/2016 9:17 pm Greetings; I am more of a collector than a numismatist. My current projects are to find the obverse dies that minted the 1881HC1, 1882H C2 and the 1884 C2 series in a die tracking scheme. It is slow going when you do not really know how many obverse dies were used so Rob's D&D is of great help. My best puzzle (which happens to be also my worst) is that I have 2 x 1884 with a partially removed die chip in the E of Regina that looks like/is the same as the one found on the 1888 O2Q. This is really weird as it does not fit into Rob's C2 die schematic in D&D. I tried to figure it out but the end result would redraw the C2 schematic in a weird and wonderful way. If the 1888 is your strong suit, you may be able to answer this one. Recalling my times on CCRS and Canadian Copper Coin, there was a tread about a 1888 with a not fully broken bottom serif on the D of Dei (shape in between that of an O2P and of an O2Q). Have seen this? Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff
JHax Valued Member United States 302 Posts	Posted 03/27/2016 10:47 am Hounddog, would you please give me a shout. Thanks, Jim * Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. * E-mail addresses are not allowed in posts.-echizento Report this Post to the Staff
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