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Trying To Identifie A "Bie" Error/1957-D 043 (I Think)

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for asa much time as I spend trying to identify these things, I would expect to be better at this than I am.

i have tried several times to identify this one. thie best I have come up with is that it is the LDB4 1957D 043, but an earlier dies tate that the wone shown on "cuds-on-coins" site.

any opinions or confirmation woould be appreciated. thanks you.



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Not 043 may be closer to 035-043 has filled lower B
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Looks like a new one to me but it is closest to 035
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There are so many for this date listed in the BIE Handbook and Jean Cohen's book it makes your head split.
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if this is an earlier die state - than the one shown on cuds-on-coins, the die break in the lower half of the "B" my not have happened - yet.

i ruled out the "035" becaluse the top if the die break on that one seems lower that the top of the one on my coin.

i agree...kinda makes my head spin...
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True on that Db...probably could of progressed into either of those two tho? Either way looks like another one to add to the monster list for JC
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Like Ken stated there are bunch of 57D's. Jean list 144 in her book. In the BIE Handbook there are 568 listed but they are a lot easier to ID. Using the Hardy Index System your BIE is a 57D-4DH. "4" a break between the B & I. "D" indicates a break of ½ or more, but less than ¾ of the height of the letters. "H" indicates a partial die break extending from the highest level of the letters toward, but not reaching, the lowest level of the letters. This type is termed an "upper" break. From the 568 listed we are now down to 3 as there are only 3 57D-4DH's listed and 2 of these have a Die Chip in the lower loop of the "B". That leaves the 57D-4DH+3 as the only possible listing. Your coin is a very close match to this but missing a small hook at the bottom of the break which may be covered up by the gunk on the coin. I can't find any match in Cohen's book for your coin. Remember the illustrations in both these book are hand drawn.
Bottom line is that this would be a new listing on COC. Can you email me the images of this coin and I'll list it.
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