1781 Russian 10 Kopek For Grading? Real Or Fake?

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swedish_coinman New Member Sweden 4 Posts	Posted 05/14/2016 2:23 pm It was covered in green copper oxidation so I used the industry methods to carefully clear it a bit before taking pictures. 55 grams 4.5 cm in diameter Fake or genuine? And estimated value? * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Edited by swedish_coinman 05/14/2016 4:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff

geraltttt82 Valued Member United Kingdom 367 Posts	Posted 05/14/2016 5:05 pm Looks strange to me. For example genuine: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17970.html Report this Post to the Staff
swedish_coinman New Member Sweden 4 Posts	Posted 05/14/2016 5:23 pm The genuine one in the link you've posted is a coin in superior excellent condition. And you're right, it do look strange in comparison to the 1769 coin. The 1781 genuine coins do look similar as mine though. At the same time so badly condition it has similarities to the fakes. Edited by swedish_coinman 05/14/2016 5:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
geraltttt82 Valued Member United Kingdom 367 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 04:15 am Ok, so this time picture from 1781 - Niemczyk Auction 2016 miscellaneous stamps Report this Post to the Staff
swedish_coinman New Member Sweden 4 Posts	Posted 05/15/2016 08:52 am It's seems legit. Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 05/16/2016 10:55 am Looks siberian. I don't know what cleaning does but I'd estimate $100 retail. http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coi...in_coin=2088 "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Report this Post to the Staff
swedish_coinman New Member Sweden 4 Posts	Posted 05/16/2016 12:06 pm Ok, "cleaning" wasn't meant in purpose to gain any "value", but to state the amount of copper oxidation was real. You could'nt literally estinguish what coin it was before. Like it has been buried and scraped since. Anyhow.. Using it as paperweight from now on, thanks for clearing everything out. Report this Post to the Staff
UltraRant Pillar of the Community Norway 1358 Posts	Posted 05/16/2016 2:11 pm Don't worry about cleaning to increase value. According to some on this forum here's it's "not done" and certainly not a way to increase the value of a coin, but more or less the opposite. :) Anyway, nice find! Seems legit to me. I have no specific indication about value though, as I don't trade much in Russian coins. Report this Post to the Staff
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