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Help! I've Bought A Coin And I Realized Its A Counterfeit.

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 Posted 05/21/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its not that a $250 FV coin sold for $110 is indication of fraud. The real Snowy Owl Coin is 1 kg or 2 lbs. How can anyone not know it is a counterfeit when the size and weight difference is so substantial?
Clearly, a 2 lb sized coin is much different than 1 oz coin.
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 Posted 05/21/2016  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Its not that a $250 FV coin sold for $110 is indication of fraud. The real Snowy Owl Coin is 1 kg or 2 lbs. How can anyone not know it is a counterfeit when the size and weight difference is so substantial?


You do not take in account, that collector (buyer) could be totally novice, without knowledge in original RCM items, which understandable.
But paying CAD 110 for 250 face value - isn't extremely suspicious?

...it's OK, we all learn


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(he still has not responded to any of my texts, which I too agree is suspicious, as he would reply within 1-4 minutes before that)


In theory, the seller could have also no clue in this item. and since you discovered and proved that it fake, he just afraid to reply, cause no one wants criminal record.
But still report it...who knows
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05/21/2016 11:18 pm
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 Posted 05/22/2016  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack316 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know, I've made some stupid coin purchases in the past, and I'm sure I'll make others. I don't believe that my mistakes set me apart from the majority of collectors. I'll wager many (read: MOST) of us, at one time or another, held our breath and made a deal that was "too good to be true."

There are times when the excitement of a special coin purchase over rides the thought process. Hind sight is so very crystal clear. Early in my return to coin collecting I enthusiastically paid $400 for a complete BU/Proof Ike set. It was (maybe) worth half what I paid. It was a limited time deal, take it or leave it, the price goes up at midnight, blah, blah, blah! Stuff happens (I read about it on a bumper sticker).

There's no shame in being exploited. The SHAME is that the world is full of folks who are willing to cheat others. Jack
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 Posted 05/22/2016  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a few "coins" in "lots"of coins I had bought from time to time, have a 1888 Morgan dollar, a few Roman silvers, a few Chinese old "silver" dragon 1800s coins.

I didn't pay very much for each lot ( $10 or less for like 20 coins) didn't know much about 'fakes" back then. Most of the coins in the lots were in the 1900s and not really worth much, the main reason for buying the lots was for the "large" old "silver" (ha ha not) coins that were in each lots.

Anyways a long story short, I researched the old 1800s coins and Roman coins and found them to be fakes, ok a cheap lesson learned, at that time in my collecting journey I wouldn't have bought expensive coins any ways so I guess I feel fortunate to have gained a "spider sense" about coins that appear to be too good to be true.

Btw those fake Romans were the hardest to find, spent hours searching for the exact ones I had, for a time I thought I had some really rare Roman silvers ( lol ) because no info was found, actually had to sign up to a Roman coin forum and post pics of them, I really had no clue they were faked, I was just wanting a dollar value on them, they soon informed me of the "value"


Guess I should add.

Now begs the question " what should I do with them" I know they are fakes, but if I die etc, someone looking though these might think they have struck a gold mine, lol.

So anyways either destroy them or keep them in something marked "fakes" so if I am not around others know.

I would never try to sell them , its just not worth the few bucks you might make even listing that they are "copies" etc, I mean your tarnishing your good name and then others may look at all your coins as suspect.
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 Posted 05/22/2016  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How can anyone not know it is a counterfeit when the size and weight difference is so substantial?


Just this week, I met a guy with a handful of Silver 1 ounce coins. I brought along a real SML, my scale with 'troy ounce' setting, and a magnet.

Just a little paranoid after all the chatter about fakes.

(All the coins checked out - 3 different Chinese 10's, 2 Aussie dollars, a UK 2 lb 'Year of the sheep' and something called a 'Bear Bull' coin. )
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Northerncoins - Very well said. I can only add a HUGE - AMEN! These are always lessons hard learned . I noticed just writing about my mistakes, makes those old wounds start bleeding again. By the way, I'd definitely put the fakes in 2 X 2s, clearly labelled "FAKE," maybe even use a highlighter over the word "FAKE." Jack
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