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Forum Dad
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Rest in Peace
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I'd want better pictures to make a better assessment, but given that he even mentioned the possibility that it has been altered raises a red flag. His feedback history isn't too bad, no negs in over a year, gives no indication that he habitually sells bad coins, and seems honest enough to mention that it might be altered, but there's too much room for doubt. Bottom line: I'd stay away from it. much as I love FEs. For comparison with a proved 1856 FE, albeit Proof, see: 1856 Flying Eagle PCGSEdited by Morgan Fred
11/07/2005 10:41 am
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Valued Member
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RedBook states altered 1858's are easy to spot with shape of 5 being different. Using Morgan Fred's link to the authentic one, it looks like an italic 5, the lousy scan of the one in question looks like a more blocky or non-italic 5 to me. (gee, that was an awkward sentence!) The 6 looks slightly goofy to me also! But, why are these possible great rarities always photographed so poorly? 
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Pillar of the Community
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The Picture has been altered I think. The Time date stamp should be sharp even if the picture was take out of focus Run away Run Away.
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Rest in Peace
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I wouldn't touch this coin unless it was authenicated by one of the big 3.
catman
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I'd agree that the 5 looks wrong. Perhaps an altered 1858.
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Pillar of the Community
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What does FE stand for? Full Eagle?
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Rest in Peace
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Hi Shasti,
FE stands for "Flying Eagle" It is the cent design type that was produced in 1857 and 1858. Therewas also some pattern pieces produced in 1856 which are the rarest of the lot.
catman
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I would be afraid to touch this even if I was using Catman's hands and money!!! If you want an altered 56 just go buy a 58 and get your dremel tool out and save a lot of money for a fake!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you,I usually look at harlanjberk site and they have just 1857 F.E. and then 1858 L.L. & S.L. which would be large & small letters but then why only 1857 is F.E.?
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Shatsi The 1858 is also a Flying Eagle cent, but has a variety of a small letter and large letter. Which is a small change in the die, but still an FE. Rick Edited by Metalman
11/07/2005 1:04 pm
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Metalman is correct. Basically the F.E. is just an abbreviation for Flying Eagle. The 58 had Large Letters and Small Letters but still a F.E. regardless. Hope this helps.
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Originally posted by catman
I wouldn't touch this coin unless it was authenicated by one of the big 3.
catman
You're right Catman. Unless Metalman, Morgan Fred or Bobby authenticate this, I wouldn't touch it either! (those were the 3 you had in mind, right?)  I hope the seller doesn't use the fact that he said he didn't know if the coin was altered or not as an excuse to not return someone's money. |
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I can't believe someone would actually pay over $2000 for something that might be altered. Sure, if it's legit then you've got yourself a bargain, but I couldn't take that chance. I don't know that much about Flying Eagles, but that six looks funny to me. You'd be better off buying the 1856 replica that guy's selling for $19.99! [:0]
Rachel [:p]
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Funny how the date is in shadow in the photo. Note the photo of the reverse is well lit...bright enough to see tooling marks(?) at 6 o'clock on the rim.
Like it's been said, the sellers feedback is decent enough, but I'd never EVER think of buying (or selling) this without an ironclad guarantee of authenticity.
tradernick
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Originally posted by Kyra
I can't believe someone would actually pay over $2000 for something that might be altered. Sure, if it's legit then you've got yourself a bargain, but I couldn't take that chance. I don't know that much about Flying Eagles, but that six looks funny to me. You'd be better off buying the 1856 replica that guy's selling for $19.99! [:0]
Rachel [:p]
I often think that no matter how much effort we make into educating the coin-buying public, there are certain people who insist on being cheated, even after they've been warned. From the oft-quoted (allegedly) P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every day.". If the buyer wants to blow 2K bucks after passing through the red flags, he deserves what he gets. At some point, people have to be responsible for their own actions. |
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