Has This Coin Been "Improperly Cleaned" ?

Your first pics look better than the second. I'm going to say it's a 'details' coin either for cleaning or light porosity. I'd submit it to ANACS. Even if it comes back in a details holder, you'll get your money back when/if you sell it. Or you could just crack it and keep it, but at least you'll know for sure.

The first thing we look for when we see an S-VDB is to make sure it's genuine . Yours has all the characteristics of a genuine coin . unfortunately IMHO the coin was cleaned a very long time ago . F-15 TO VF-20 Details .

Thanks everybody very much for the advice! The coin in person looks more like the darker picture, the lighter one just shows some of the details better.
Is it much better to send it to ANACS that PCGS for this kind of task?
bpoc1, I'm not sure what the die-chip in the S upper loop should look like, here are the highest res pictures the forum will let me post. I think if you click on the image it comes up even bigger. If that's not high res enough I can take a detail of just the S.

Previously cleaned, but I have certainly seen worse.

Thanks everybody, I guess there's no point to send it in to a professional, based on the feedback here it has obviously been "improperly" cleaned.

I actually have a second one that's in better condition, I'm not concerned that one has been cleaned but on that one I'm a bit concerned it's not legitimate. I am having trouble lining up the S with the known variations. Here are pictures, if anybody has an opinion on its veracity I'm all ears. Thank you!

That coin is FANTASTIC! AU-55 and perhaps a slider to MS BN. Send that one in!

Thanks guys, now I think it's fake I can't discern this chip in the S, not in either of them actually. I'll send them in and post when I get a verdict.

So should I get a bottle of VerdiCare? What chemicals do they use to do it "improperly"?