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Help... Recently Aquired This Coin, Seems To Be A Rare One? Any Ideas

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Looks like a VIRTVS E_XERCITI reverse, with CONS mintmark. Might be Arcadius, but I'm not sure. Our Roman experts will help. In the meantime a better picture, particularly of the obverse legend, would really help the process.
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http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/083/083i.htm

DNMAXIMVS PFAVG

Magnus Maximus is one of the more common usurpers; hardcore collectors consider him "common" but by ebay standards, he is scarce.

That particular coin would probably fetch $15-20 on ebay.
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 Posted 09/10/2016  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Magnus Maximus...


Nice job...and good eyes!
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Nice find.
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I was able to read the obverse legend but not the reverse legend, and I thought it might have been the other (much rarer) usurper Maximus.

Apparently his coins split the legend in a different place. And he didn't make this type, anyway.
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 Posted 09/11/2016  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coldashby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I here you all Magnus Maximus has DN MAG Maximus, this is just dn maximus p f avg, it does snot look like magnus maximus also this legend DN MAXIMUS P F AVG is not on wildwinds, better photo tomorrow
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COIN OB IS D N MAXIMUS P F AVG
REV IS VIRTVS EXCERCITI

could be the rarer usurper ?
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Tempting to suppose that.

But the style of portrait belongs to the mid 4th century while Maximus of Spain is early 5th century.
The few pics I have seen of Max of Spain of are not the most pleasing to look at. He was not a major player and the artistic quality shows that his issues were made on the 'fly'.

The mint mark also gives a time period. The city of Arles was renamed Constantia in the early 4th century. By AD395 it had been given back it's pre Constantinian name of Arelatum.
The coin bears a 4th century mint mark
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 Posted 09/11/2016  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no question this is Magnus Maximus, RIC 83d, rated R4 for rarity.

I can't find another example anywhere online
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Still a very nice coin and probably an early issue. The portrait is that of Constantius II. A very common thing when a new regime takes over the mint operations. They probably had dies already made and simply changed the legend.
As an early issue it may account for the missing MAG.
Other portraits of MAG MAX are quite distinctive in style and he is fairly easy to recognize with only his 'bro' Decentius resembling his coins.
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I will post a much better pic tomorrow, thanks for your comments
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My brain momentarily froze. I of course confused Mag Max with Magnentius (both western usurpers).
The coin as previously mentioned is not a portrait of Constantius.
Apologies for my confusionism !
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Well heres the coin

Help...-Recently-Aquired-This-Coin,-Seems-To-Be-A-Rare-One?-Any-Ideas

Help...-Recently-Aquired-This-Coin,-Seems-To-Be-A-Rare-One?-Any-Ideas

What do you think guys
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