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 Posted 11/16/2005  5:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tonphil1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How many of you guys use a PO box for all numismatic stuff?

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 Posted 11/16/2005  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been told that I should, but I don't. There are a lot of ebay sellers who won't ship to PO boxes, too. It's probably a good idea if there are a lot of people who know that you collect, but if they know that, you're already at risk since they're going to assume that you store your coins in your home.
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 Posted 11/16/2005  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use the UPS store. It costs quite a bit more, but is 100% secure and doesn't have the same restrictions as a P.O. Box
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 Posted 11/16/2005  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would have to stand in line to get one of the boxes at our post office. Lets just say they have a waiting list! Thought we were going to get a new post office building this year but they are suffering with so much debt they couldn't afford to follow thru with their plans. I get everything, from everyone, right here at the house. FedEx, UPS, and now DHL, plus the USPS all know where I live!
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 Posted 11/16/2005  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't- my mailbox is one of those with a heavy-duty lock on it. I've already broken keys in it twice trying to get the dang thing open, so I'm not too worried about anyone else getting into it.

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 Posted 11/16/2005  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Other than having my rural delivery box in front of my old home being knocked down by the snowplow every time we had a snowstorm, I had mail stolen from it a couple times, so I switched to a PO Box. Much more secure and no problems with the snowplow. Further, no concerns about having to wait for and meet the mailman if a coin is coming in; with a PO Box, I can pick it up at my leisure.

In my present location, I MUST have a PO Box: this Post Office has no rural delivery. Actually, many or most very small Post Offices do not have a rural delivery mailman and all persons at that ZIP must have a box.

I have a hard time understanding why so many sellers will not ship to a Post Office Box. Seems to me this is about as secure a shipping method as can be provided since the coin doesn't leave the security of the Postal Service until it is actually picked up by the buyer. On occasion, I've emailed the seller explaining that I have nothing but a PO Box as a delivery address and without exception, they agreed to ship to the box if I won. However, I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation why they won't ship to a PO Box.

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 Posted 11/17/2005  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RKKay to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

I use the UPS store. It costs quite a bit more, but is 100% secure and doesn't have the same restrictions as a P.O. Box



Ditto
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 Posted 11/17/2005  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Cave_Troll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred
However, I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation why they won't ship to a PO Box.


The best explanation that I've heard is from a seller who insisted on UPS and had had trouble getting them to deliver to people with only a PO Box instead of a physical address. (I used to live in one of those tiny towns where everyone had a PO Box since the zip code didn't have enough residents to justify having a mail carrier.)

The other thing is that because a PO box is (can be) annonymous, then it lends itself to being used in a fraudulent manner. For example, immagine a con man who creates a couple of fake id's and opens a credit card account and a PO Box. He then charges a bunch of things on his card, has them delivered to a PO Box and skips town. When the CC company finds out they back charge all his purchases and the sellers have no address and no recourse. If someone has a physical address it is just a little harder to fake.

Just a thought...
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11/17/2005 9:19 pm
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 Posted 11/17/2005  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the end it is ALWAYS about protecting the rich man isn't it?
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 Posted 11/17/2005  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by The_Cave_Troll

quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred
However, I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation why they won't ship to a PO Box.


The best explanation that I've heard is from a seller who insisted on UPS and had had trouble getting them to deliver to people with only a PO Box instead of a physical address. (I used to live in one of those tiny towns where everyone had a PO Box since the zip code didn't have enough residents to justify having a mail carrier.)

The other thing is that because a PO box is (can be) annonymous, then it lends itself to being used in a fraudulent manner. For example, immagine a con man who creates a couple of fake id's and opens a credit card account and a PO Box. He then charges a bunch of things on his card, has them delivered to a PO Box and skips town. When the CC company finds out they back charge all his purchases and the sellers have no address and no recourse. If someone has a physical address it is just a little harder to fake.

Just a thought...



The USPS requires a PO Box applicant on PS Form 1093 demonstrate that s/he have a viable "street" address, viz. must document a verifiable place of residence. While a person with deceit on his/her mind can get around this requirement with phony documents and it's almost certain that some Post Offices don't bother reviewing the documentation, the level of fraud through blind PO Boxes is relatively low, certainly low enough that sellers who refuse to ship to PO Boxes live in a paranoid delusional state (NPI).

Don't get me going on vendors who only ship via UPS with no provisions for those of us who have only PO Boxes. Makes me see red and load up the .45 when I need a part or a book and can't get it.



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 Posted 11/18/2005  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by crystalk64

In the end it is ALWAYS about protecting the rich man isn't it?



I don't worry so much about losing the mail, as I do, someone seeing what is delivered. If the "wrong" person sees your CoinWorld magazine coming to the house, it can invite the wrong person.
Currently, I do not have ANY mail delivered to my home. Now I know that I am a little security crazy, but once the "what if" happens, it is too late. From that, I speak from experience.
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 Posted 11/18/2005  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tonphil1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah I am not worried about losing mail. It's the wrong person knowing the address and that there are coins in the house..

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 Posted 11/18/2005  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Being a collector of little valuable things, I was really dissappointed recently when our Post Office insisted on assigning street addresses to our rural boxes. Now, they say they will not deliver mail unless it is addressed to our street address. Before, it was a Highway Contract route number and a box number. I felt more secure, a little more anonymous. The mail is still delivered to the colony of locked mail boxes, but it's not as secure...maybe a piece of numismatic mail will be dropped on the ground, or placed in someone else's box, etc. I still refuse to put my street address out by the road! To me, this is a case of Big Brother deciding what's best.
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 Posted 11/18/2005  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Starting about 30 years ago, many jurisdictions (municipalities, cities, etc.) required persons living with rural route addresses (e.g., Rte 2, Box 177) to switch to "street" addresses for purposes of 911. The fire departments and police needed to know exactly where to go. I happened to live in one of the earliest areas to implement 911. Twenty years later, I relocated to another location which had not yet installed a 911 system, but when it was finally employed, I had to go through the address switch once more. In both instances, the Post Office merely followed the lead of the local policies rather than instigating the address changes.

In both locations, posting the residence's number on the road or street was mandatory. This makes a lot of sense for emergency purposes (keeps the fire dept or police from having to drive miles around looking for the correct address); both areas were low crime, so few people objected.

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