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1815 MO Jj 8 Reales? Genuine Or Forgery?

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 Posted 12/23/2016  12:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I am just wondering about this 1815 8 reales I bought on ebay some time ago. I am a bit concerned about whether or not it is a genuine coin. It is the right size and weight (26.8 grams, which I know is on the lighter side), plus I have been able to find the overlaps on the edge. The part that concerns me is the surface of the coin, which seems strange. There is a lot of pitting, plus some strange toning. Below are some photos of the coin. The close up one is under a microscope.

Thanks for your time.

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 Posted 12/23/2016  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

can you send an edge picture?

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 Posted 12/24/2016  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the edge pictures of where I believe the overlaps are. The other pictures are where it is on the coin:

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 Posted 12/24/2016  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, this one looks a bit damaged and worn, but pretty authentic to me.
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 Posted 12/24/2016  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your help coinworldtv,

I've checked out your ebay store too, and there's a lot of cool stuff there.
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 Posted 12/25/2016  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, how would the pitting on the surface occur? Is it something to do with how it was minted, or was it something else?
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 Posted 12/25/2016  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

it is hard to tell due to the low image quality (your magnifier does distort the image too much).

The pitting is possibly mint-made (planchet striae) or just corrosion.



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 Posted 12/27/2016  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, thanks!
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Looks authentic to me although difficult to tell from just a low res photo. Where is the pitting? Where is the "odd toning"? The edge damage near the date should reduce the cost to a point where a counterfeit may be close to a genuine one in price.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MHG111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not too sure if it is 'pitting' as such, just an unfamiliar surface (to me), as for the odd toning (I meant tarnish, sorry), it appears darker around the edge and lower parts.
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