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Right back at you Spence, Dlangs56 and all the unnamed.

By the way, I'm not trying to educate here. There are people here who have forgotten more than I know. I just wanted to keep all the cool stuff about the hobby that I run into from time to time in one place so that I can refer back to it if I need to. Getting feedback about it in a discussion board with fellow collecting travelers who love what I love is just a big fat bonus.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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We're on a new page, so something new... guy looks pretty serious and stern in his suit.

US Treasury Department official, surrounded by packages of newly printed currency, counting and keeping records in 1907.

Notice an electric coil and circuit on the ceiling. Anyone know what that is? I'm asking because I have no idea what that is.

And do those look like cartwheels toning quietly against sulfur rich canvas bags stacked on the cart at left?

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Those "Coils" are the newly run electrical wiring in the building. The larger one is a light socket, without a bulb (or one is so clear it didn't pixo) those smaller ones are porcelin insulators. Wires were cloth wrapped copper single strand that was held in place by the insulator. Wire was clamped and stretched tight so not to touch any metal surfaces, cloth was not the best insulator.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Your very first pic of a painting of George Washington has some historic relevance. I mean the painting itself has a very monetary value or is extremely rare and was sold recently for a pretty penny; but I am not to sure. I will have to do some research and get back with you. Man, it is right there at the tip of my memory; but it alludes me at the moment. Like I said I will get back with you as soon as I find out what I come up with my research. Thanks for sharing.

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That 1892 "TONED" Barber quarter completely took my breath away...and yes it is the most beautiful Barber quarter I have ever laid my eyes upon in my life. WOW!


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The painting is called "Inspecting the First Coinage" by John Ward Dunsmore. The original is at the U.S. Mint and there are reproductions in Mint buildings throughout the country. It was commissioned by Frank Stewart in 1914 and was donated by him to the Mint in 1916.

There should be no auction records for the painting because it never sold. It had one owner who commissioned it and it has been in the hands of the government since shortly thereafter when it was donated, which means you own it as much as I do.

Why pay for something you already own?

In my opinion, it is now a priceless national treasure that belongs to the American People.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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1859 Seated dollar hand-engraved in script from "Mack" to an Indiana Reg't. Major. Jeff Davis is of course the President of the Confederacy.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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The New Orleans Mint was the only U.S. Mint to be run by three separate governments. The U.S. Government ran the New Orleans Mint until Louisiana seceded from the Union on January 26, 1861, prior to the outbreak of the Civil War during the Civil War.

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Upon secession, the State of Louisiana took over and ran the New Orleans Mint.

On February 5, 1861, during the proceedings of the Convention of the State of Louisiana in New Orleans, the committee appointed by the Convention to take an inventory on February 1, 1861, of public property in the hands of the officers of 'the late' Federal government reported that the Sub-Treasurer's vault at the mint contained $483,983 in gold and silver coins. The National Archives records in Rockville, Maryland, indicate the $483,983 consisted of $308,771 in gold coins and $175,212.08 in silver coins. The only gold coin produced in January, 1861 was the $20 gold double-eagle. This means 15,438 $20 gold coins were minted by the New Orleans Mint during January, 1861. Mint coinage records for the $20 1861-O gold double-eagle indicate only 5,000 $20 gold pieces were minted by the Federal Government in January, 1861. This discrepancy is explained in a Numismatist Journal article.

On March 11, 1861 in Montgomery, Alabama, delegates from South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas adopt the Permanent Constitution of the Confederate States of America.

The Confederate government retained all the mint officers. They used it briefly as their own coinage facility. The Confederates struck 962,633 of the 2,532,633 New Orleans half-dollar coins dated 1861. Research suggests that 1861-O half dollars bearing a bisected date die crack ("WB-103") and 1861-O half-dollars with a "speared olive bud" anomaly ("WB-104") on the reverse had been minted under authority of the Confederacy. Confederate officials designed alternate reverse dies which they used to strike their own half-dollars in New Orleans (see image). The exact number of the half-dollar coins struck by the Confederate mint with the alternate reverse is unknown; but only four are known to exist today. One of them, which was sold at auction for a large sum, had once been owned by Jefferson Davis, the only President of the C.S.A.

Confederate minting operations continued from April 1 until the bullion ran out later that month. The staff remained on duty until May 31, 1861. After that the mint was used for quartering Confederate troops, until it was recaptured along with the rest of the city the following year, largely by Union naval forces under the command of Admiral David Farragut.

Total Number of US coins Ever Minted in New Orleans = 420,370,133

Over 420 MILLION Coins were minted in New Orleans and that only includes the official US currencies. As you can see, most of these coins were silver dollars, the crown jewel coin of this mint. This impressive number was during a time without modern equipment as well. The number above is conservative estimate.

Total Number of Three Cent Pieces Ever Minted in New Orleans = 720,000 face value worth $21,600

Total Number of Half Dimes Ever Minted in New Orleans = 16,280,000 face value worth $814,000

Total Number of Dimes Ever Minted in New Orleans = 68,131,834 face value worth $6,813,183

Total Number of Quarters Ever Minted in New Orleans = 60,386,000 face value worth $15,096,500

Total Number of Half Dollars Ever Minted in New Orleans = 81,389,757 face value worth $40,694,879

Total Number of Dollars Ever Minted in New Orleans = 187,111,529 face value worth $187,111,529

Total Number of Gold Dollars Ever Minted in New Orleans = 1,004,000 face value worth $1,004,000

Total Number of $2.50 Gold Quarter Eagles Ever Minted in New Orleans = 1,205,263 face value worth $3,013,158

Total Number of $3 Gold Coins Ever Minted in New Orleans = 24,000 face value worth $72,000

Total Number of $5 Gold Half Eagles Ever Minted in New Orleans = 925,145 face value worth $4,625,725

Total Number of $10 Gold Eagles Ever Minted in New Orleans = 2,361,089 face value worth $23,610,890

Total Number of $20 Gold Double Eagles Ever Minted in New Orleans = 831,516 face value worth $16,630,320
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I was wondering what made the New Orleans Mint different from the other Southern branch mints in Dahlonega, Georgia and Charlotte, North Carolina. These branch mints were also in States that seceded from the Union.

Georgia seceded on January 19, 1861 and joined the Confederacy shortly thereafter on February 4, 1861.

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North Carolina seceded on May 20, 1861 and joined the Confederacy the next day.

Unlike New Orleans in the prior post, GA and NC did not have a long two month lag between the time they seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy. Therefore the State government did not immediately take over these branch mints and the Confederacy took over those functions directly.

These branch mints, unlike that at New Orleans, did not survive during Reconstruction after the Civil War.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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On display now. stop by before 12/5/2017 at the University of Georgia if you can.

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Buckhead collector's coins on display at UGA

by Evelyn Andrews in August 2017

Bob Harwell has turned his childhood pastime of collecting coins into a profession, and now coins he collected are on display at a University of Georgia library.

The display includes a complete set of gold coins produced at the U.S. Dahlonega Mint prior to the Civil War. The coins are "the most important artifact to Georgia history," Harwell said.

Bob Harwell, a Buckhead resident, stands behind a collection of Dahlonega gold coins he collected on display at a University of Georgia library. (Special)

Harwell, a coin dealer, pulled together the set of gold coins for Atlanta collector John McMullan. McMullan later decided to donate them to UGA because he is a "very strong supporter of getting young people interested in Georgia history," Harwell said.

The coins are displayed at the university's Special Collections Library, which houses archives and provides several ongoing exhibits. The library is often visited by children on school trips, which McMullan saw as a way to share his collection with young Georgians, Harwell said.

Harwell collected the coins for McMullan over eight years. He found sources among collectors in Europe and auctions. The 62-count set, which includes all the types of coins produced at the mint, is valued at nearly $1 million.

McMullan named the collection the Reed Creek Collection, after a creek on the property where he was born.

Harwell has been collecting gold coins for 40 years. After reconnecting with a childhood friend he'd collected coins with, the two opened Atlanta's Hancock & Harwell Rare Coin and Precious Metal Company, which is located in Buckhead at 3155 Roswell Road. The McMullan collection isn't the first set of Dahlonega gold coins they've assembled. Harwell also put together a complete set of uncirculated Dahlonega gold coins.

The Dahlonega mint opened in 1838, 10 years after the first discovery of gold in Dahlonega, which was the first discovery of gold in the U.S.

To Harwell, the coins are an important artifact of Georgia history. By the time the mint closed in 1861, it had produced almost 1.5 million gold coins with a face value of more than $6 million.

The gold rush also created an economic and population boom in Georgia in the 1800s, Harwell said.

Jean Cleveland, a public relations specialist at UGA's Hargrett Library, said the donation of the rarely seen full set gave the library a chance to showcase other artifacts in their collection, including maps, rare books, letters and photographs.

The front and back of a coin collected by Harwell for Atlanta collector John McMullan, who donated the coins to UGA. (Special)

"It's not generally well known that the Georgia Gold Rush happened 20 years before the California Gold Rush," Cleveland said.

Cleveland also noted this exhibit affords an opportunity for education about the damage to the environment caused by mining for gold in Dahlonega. Stream beds and hillsides were damaged and miners cut down forests to build wooden shacks, she said.

Also, the gold rush was a main factor in why Native Americans were forced off lands, Cleveland said.

It also is one of the first examples of the south becoming industrialized, with both U.S. mint and private mints opening to transform the gold into currency, Cleveland said.

The coins are on display in an exhibit named "Gold-Digging in Georgia: America's First Gold Rush" in the university's Richard B. Russell Special Collections Library in Athens, Georgia. It will be on display until Dec. 5, 2017.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Very nice!

I used to spend a lot of time at UGA back it the late 1990s. Have not been there since. This would be a good reason if my scheduled allowed.
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Full text of the Coinage Act of 1792 establishing the U.S. Mint

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CCF discussion of this document here:
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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