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i was wondering what is the smallest bead you have ever seen. here is a image of a bead on a 2013 dime on the reverse the letter H for Emanuel Hahn. this is from a bellow stretched to its limit.  |
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i thought I would share this image of a 2016 dime. witha die chip on the H as well. you see like a haze on the images. that is light leaking in I will have that corrected very soon  |
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Hi, This is my first post.  I have discussed about the " 1943 Oval Colon Dots" on a French Forum (NumiCanada.com forums). No one has ever heard about this " variety". 2 members have found oval colon dots. One member has posted a few pictures and she gaves me permissions to post her pictures here.   Having no more information than what was published in "The Planchet" (A very good journal by the way), some people asked if the oval form is visible on all colons or on only one? Would you think of a die-deterioration when all colons have the oval form? Thank you for any information you might have about it. Dan |
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Sousnoir
Thanks for posting... as I am looking at your coin all the dots look oval... but I don't have a comparison to look at right now. Does anyone have the time to throw up a picture of one with round dots?
A few other questions sousnoir
which side is supposed to be the oval dots?
Was this the same on all the coins your members found?
Do you have any statistics as to how many coins members went through and how many turned out oval?
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Hello Coin Chick, Here's a picture of 8 round dots from the 4 colons in the legend on the obverse.  Dots are those in colons in the legend "D : G : REX ET IND : IMP :" Today, I have examined 2 rolls (100 coins) of 1943 cents and I have found one with oval dots. I took a quick picture from my iPhone for the purpose of identifying what to look for. This is a blurry picture (sorry) to start with until I use my microscope later this week.  Please don't get distracted (for now) by weak denticles above the legend "D : G : REX ET". I have seen today many 1943 pennies with a weak strike and all of these coins had round dots. As you suggested, I asked people to share the amount of coins they have checked. I have not made a compilation yet. I don't know if this is a variety but a few coins have been found with oval dots in the past 3 days. Actually, there are 4 coins with oval dots from about 200 coins checked. We are waiting for pictures for analysis. I am not really into finding errors but it would be fun to add a new variety for the 1943 penny. Please share your findings. Thanks Dan |
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Hello, I have compiled preliminary statitics after 5 days of searching for oval dots from NumiCanada forum members. As for now, more than 446 coins have been checked. 5 coins with oval dots have been found. One person did not tell (yet) how many coins have been examined. Roughly, oval dots have been found on 1% of the lot. I am waiting for permission to publish their pictures here. Until then, you can look at these pictures published on NumiCanada. No matter the language, a picture says it all. http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...f=22&t=28010That would be cool if someone finds oval dots on a coin in the AU/MS grade. Dan |
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I would prefer to see these things to be documented on mint state coins, before coming to the conclusion that a different set of matrix dies were used.
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Hi, You are right on the "dot" SPP-Ottawa. A Mint State coin with oval dots would help to know if this is a variety. These oval dots may be the result of an uncontrolled minting process or from a specific die with oval dots. As for today, oval dots have been observed on 5 coins out of 484. We didn't find a coin above the VG/F grade with oval dots. Here's a picture from Bidou on NumiCanada. (I got his permission to publish it here)  Dan |
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Thanks for the photos... I am a member on NumiCanada, but I tend to lurk there more than I post...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Hi, Here is a nice coin with oval colon dots. The coin was sent to me by Abbeden from Quebec City so I could make a few photographs. This coin has a nice grade with original lustre and a smooth patina.  This coin has a die crack on the reverse between the rim and 1 of 1943. The crack is also visible between 1 and 9. On the obverse, there is a die crack between the rim and the neck. There is a double HP below the neck.  For the purpose of this discussion, I have marked oval dots from A to H.  Oval dots A and B.  Oval dots C and D.  Oval dots E and F.  Oval dots E, F, G and H, with double HP.  Oval dots G and H, double HP, and a die crack below the neck.  I did a quick measurement of the ellipse on dot B. The major axis (0,45 mm) is 50% longer than the minor axis (0,30 mm).  Dan |
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Canada
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The 55 denticles varieties are known. When you put the two side by side the differences are very clear.....like the 1948. I will try to post pictures later.
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Hi Smallcentguy,
I have never heard or read about a 1943 penny with 55 denticles. I have never counted them but it looks like there are more than a hundred denticles. A 1943 penny having 55 denticles would be obvious to most collectors. Maybe not, I don't know. Can you tell us more about this?
Thanks.
Dan
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i will be honest, I haven't read over the whole thread as I don't have the time right now. I just wanted to toss out that it appears to be a doubled die obverse or maybe triple or more..we'd need to see a MS coin to know for sure. compare it to the 1947 quadruple HP (quadrupled die) dollars..almost identical.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Thanks thedollarman,
This coin with the double HP was shipped back to the owner when I read your post. The double HP was obvious at 10X.
Do you know about the 55 denticles variety as said earlier by Smallcentguy ?
Dan
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Hi, Bidou, a member of NumiCanada forums, has posted a few pictures of this penny with oval dots.    Dan |
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