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 Posted 03/31/2008  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Where do these people get these dies? Do the make them?

I've seen on The US Mint site dies are sold. Wouldn't the buyer of these dies have the opportunity to 'mint' their own coins with these dies from the mint as well? Why do they 'tempt' counterfeiters with this sale?



None of those dies are real. The counterfeit dies can be hand engraved or they can also pattern a die after an actual coin.

The dies that are sold by US Mint have been rendered unusable by grinding off the face- it is just a hunk of steel with some numbers imprinted on it so no way to make a coin with it. I have seen some old cent dies from the 60s that were torched, essentially melting the face of the die.
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03/31/2008 08:49 am
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The Canadian small cent is most likely a 1936 dot cent.
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The Canadian small cent is most likely a 1936 dot cent.


Now there's a "coin" that will make a quick $$ sale--without too much scrutiny! It would be more effective to re-work a genuine '36, but those have been detected too.
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Yep - they look like an enemy weapons factory to me, very chilling... maybe we should just send in the migs and bomb the place...

Well it looks like they would try and justify this by saying they need it to get their economy going, but we should try sanctioning them over this sort of thing as they will ruin our collectables markets.

By the way, on the subject of the creation of perfect looking fakes, is there a way of using high-level science to analyse the metal composition of impurities to discern which coins are fakes and which ones come from a genuine original minting around say 1797, 1805 etc...I would have thought there was one.
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03/31/2008 1:42 pm
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NumisMattyUK,

that would be X-ray fluorescence or XRF for short, a nondestructive process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_fluorescence
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I too am speechless...
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makes me sick
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