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1856 Flying Eagle Cent > 2k > Fake?

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 Posted 04/04/2008  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littleboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1856 cent is an altered 1858 cent. the style of 5 is definitely not of the 1856. the rest is too blurry.

1913D nickel. altered 1913 t2. the mint mark is not the correct style for the time period. it looks closest to a 1985-86 D.

the rest I cant tell but 2 counterfeits make me question their authenticity
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 Posted 04/04/2008  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything he has sold appears to be fake. The 1870 and 1871 Indian Head cents were the most obvious since they used the wrong obverse hub type.
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 Posted 04/04/2008  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Judging from those other auctions, it appears that guy knows exactly what he's doing.
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04/05/2008 11:11 am
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 Posted 04/04/2008  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Emailed buyer about the probable counterfeit.. no response.
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 Posted 04/04/2008  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1sikevo, good on ya!
I was considering doing that...
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 Posted 04/04/2008  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After you pay $600 for a fake 1909-S IHC in AU condition, things like these have a way making me mad, you know...
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 Posted 04/04/2008  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotcha--I've become very careful too. I once bid on a Tag-Heuer watch on ebay that turned out to be a fake.
Luckily I spotted that before paying, but the seller actually had the the gall to threaten legal action against me.
So I countered with some legal action of my own--I faxed his auction numbers to Tag-Heuer's legal counsel.
Checkmate.
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04/04/2008 3:53 pm
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 Posted 04/04/2008  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennypusher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold for 5K. OUCH! It looks very pecular to me too! -PP
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He also can't spell anything right. I looked at all of his previous auctions and in each one, there is always a mispelled word. I wonder how old this person is...making counterfeits
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 Posted 04/05/2008  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller received positive feedback on:

1899 CC morgan: $1600

1923 Half Penny: $620

1913 D Buff Nickel: $100

1921 Peace dollar: $93

1909 S IHC: $457

Negative feedback was related to shipping.

Not too shabby, really.
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 Posted 04/05/2008  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wrote to the winner:

"I'm curious to know if you're satisfied with your purchase of the 1856 FE Cent. If it's an authentic 1856 Flying Eagle cent, congratulations on your purchase."
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I gave him our link! :D
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 Posted 04/05/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's been two days and no reply from this buyer, not even a "thank you, I'll check it out."
This same guy bought a 1914-D Lincoln that looks fake too.
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 Posted 04/05/2008  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afernbaugh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of months ago I was shopping ebay for a Lincoln 1955 DDO. I was amazed at the number of fakes for sale. And.....they all sold but one! I did blow the whistle on one of them that was just too obvious. Amazing what fools we can become when we think we are buying a key coin for half the real value.

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 Posted 04/05/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Conder, for 1870 there are three reverse types:
Type 1: Shallow N
Type 2: Bold N over Shallow N rehubbing (I have one of these)
Type 3: Bold N.

I said wrong OBVERSE hub type.
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04/05/2008 10:50 am
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