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1978 "Proof" Coin Set

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Does anyone know the origin of these sets? Were they issued by the RCM directly or were they sold at banks or some other distribution channel?

I rarely see them in this packaging configuration so wonder where they came from.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canada-1978-...AOSw2xRYh1Oi

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Definitely not proof coins, as no proofs of circulation coins were struck in 1978
The coat of arms on the case is not Canadian or official at all, it's somebody's fantasy.
1978 specimen sets came in a maroon coloured case with a real coat of arms.
Double dollar specimen sets came in larger rectangular black case again with areal official coat of arms on the front..
The coins inside appear to be regular business strikes.
In the day it was quite common for third parties (dealers, coin clubs,department stores, souvenir shops, etc.) to assemble and market such sets.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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These come in a wooden case with a maroon padded top produced
by a third party supplier in several different years.
I have bought some of these sets for my granddaughter for around $7.00 each CDN.
They have the original price of $15.00 stamped on the side and
consist of uncirculated business strikes.
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Thanks for the info JimmyD. I have only seen them for 1978 so interesting to know there are other years.

And of course they are just business strike coins despite what the seller called them. Hence the quotes around the word "proof" used by the seller.

One of these '78 sets has been around my parent's house for as long as I can remember. I've often wondered where my father got it and was sort of hoping for a more compelling origin story.

I'll see what I can find on-line with your additional information.
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I just remembered I have an 1982 Confederation set here
that I haven't given to my granddaughter yet.
On the bottom there is a circular leather embossed name
plate that has the words "RENWICK - MADE IN CANADA" on it.
Don't know if this will help any.



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Interesting. Renwick seems to be a leather goods maker.

Here are a couple other similar sets:

A 1982 with an Olympic style logo being sold by our friends at Gatwest Coins. Not even an Olympic year.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1982-Canada-...381985779001

And another 1982 with that odd coat of arms

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...371879416801
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Google searching "Renwick coin sets" got me right back here to CCF. lol

http://goccf.com/t/146342#146342

This thread seems to have the best answer. Recycled Olympic boxes from '72 & '76.

Explains what it is but I guess I'll never know how my father came to have it. Thanks again.
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Here is my "Renwick" 1982. thought you might be interested in what the original outer cardboard box looks like.



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I think it's a pretty nice set. Nice royal blue felt that hasn't gotten all stuck on the coins like the official '73 sets did.
Seems like the boxes are recycled 76 olympic 4 coin boxes with the coat of arms glued over the olympic rings. Nice box - ash and real leather. And yes, the coins are just regular business strikes - but nice ones. This is one of my favourite weird unofficial curios.
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Cool. Thanks.
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rockfish someone cared enough to put a real coat of arms on your box, adds a bit of class.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Yes, DBM, though the translation of "official" into french is incorrect. Should be "officiel". Ratchets the class down a step or two and reinforces the fact that these sets were definitely not "officiel"!
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