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 Posted 04/06/2008  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah !.......Great idea........I think we need a Modern World Euro/U.S Commemortive coin depicting our "dead" soldiers who never got to come home too !.....you know the ones laying in the cemetary "over there" In Europe who were fighting "evil" in the world in the '40's...and in World War One (I have family who died and fought in BOTH)..and of course,..fighting tyranny & evil then......as we do now or have done in Afganistan....Iraq(ask the Kurds).....Japan....North Korea...Grenada.....Cuba.....North Vietnam...Nicaraugua....Soviet Union....GERMANY...Bosnia....Yugoslavia....here in the U.S. against Britain.....Isreal.....Libya...Italy....Pakistan......Iran......Somalia......etc....etc...
Man ! .....we're really on to something here........there should be a SERIES of Commemortive coins honoring America's attempts to better the world and the noble undertakings that we try to do to rid the world of evil and horrific people and governments..........I LIKE IT !
THERE SHOULD BE A "MODERN WORLD COIN" DEPICTING THIS SOMEHOW......!
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04/06/2008 12:59 pm
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 Posted 04/06/2008  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Augsburger, LOL...yeah, the US gets around--don't we?
However, it's not all bad--but we're soon to run out of money for those little army games.*
I was just comparing the US trade balance vs that of Germany: -815 $Bn (US) vs. +257.8 $Bn (D). So I'm a little more impressed by how Germany handles itself internationally.


* Not meant to incite a political debate, just a personal observation for Augsburger.
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04/06/2008 2:48 pm
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 Posted 04/06/2008  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not that I am not a big fan of the US, it is just that I am not a big fan of governments in general, but neither an anarchist or anything like that either.

But then as a brit, I am not too impressed with my own countries trips into other areas of the world, we managed to mess up africa, the middle east, took over canada, australia, india and the like. Luckily we don't celebrate this "greatness" (where do you think we got the Great in Great Britian from?) on our coins.

The main point I was making was that you have the 50 state series, then you move on to the other areas like puerto rico etc, and then someone suggests the idea of all US territories, I just went one step further. This was not supposed to turn into some little political debate, but while I'm at it, I'm not the biggest fan of bush or reagan (he says running quickly out the door)!

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 Posted 04/06/2008  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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i am not a big fan of governments in general, but neither an anarchist or anything like that either.


Nor do I want to divide our great community here along political lines, but I do know where you're coming from. Empires, whether US, UK, etc. usually pay for their excesses--one way or another.

I lived overseas in Switzerland for a while, so I have a little different perspective than the avg. American. So please keep that in mind if anyone's put off by the spin in my words.
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 Posted 04/06/2008  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hugemistake2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Yeah !.......Great idea........I think we need a Modern World Euro/U.S Commemortive coin depicting our "dead" soldiers who never got to come home too !.....you know the ones laying in the cemetary "over there" In Europe who were fighting "evil" in the world in the '40's...and in World War One (I have family who died and fought in BOTH)..and of course,..fighting tyranny & evil then......as we do now or have done in Afganistan....Iraq(ask the Kurds).....Japan....North Korea...Grenada.....Cuba.....North Vietnam...Nicaraugua....Soviet Union....GERMANY...Bosnia....Yugoslavia....here in the U.S. against Britain.....Isreal.....Libya...Italy....Pakistan......Iran......Somalia......etc....etc...
Man ! .....we're really on to something here........there should be a SERIES of Commemortive coins honoring America's attempts to better the world and the noble undertakings that we try to do to rid the world of evil and horrific people and governments..........I LIKE IT !
Eaglefoot: Don't act like everything the United States has ever done has been good, as if the U.S. is incapable of doing evil. Some things we've done have been very beneficial, yes, but we've also made a lot of screw-ups too, installing dictators over democratically elected leaders when it suited the selfish interests of the higher-ups, and sticking our noses in places where it didn't belong.

Although I think your idea of a joint Euro-U.S. commerative is a really good one, it would probably be too controversial to happen. Could you imagine a coin with "One Dollar" and "One Euro"/"United States of America" and "European Union" on it? The fake Amero coins sparked enough of an uproar.

Furthermore, it could never honor soldiers who died, because many of the countries in the EU had soliders fighting for the other side! A soldier on such a coin would commemerate the Allied soldiers as well as the Axis soldiers. However, a joint EU-US coin celebrating unity, peace, etc. would be a really good idea.
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 Posted 04/06/2008  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they should have a new obverse and reverse and they should include lady Liberty.
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 Posted 04/06/2008  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll 2nd the LGF quarter...
It won the first time, they weaseled out of running with it.
It's time to give Laura her due and mint the coin.
Sure is a beautiful coin.
Be nice to see it hang around for a few decades.
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 Posted 04/06/2008  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j-easy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
we need coins honoring our soldiers, not the ground they fought on
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 Posted 04/06/2008  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bronxman95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure congress will think of something to make a little money. For every quarter taken out of circulation they net 15 cents or so.
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quote:
we need coins honoring our soldiers, not the ground they fought on


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 Posted 04/06/2008  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I'll 2nd the LGF quarter...
I'll 3rd the LGF quarter!

I'm all for change, whether it be Liberty or a new Washington design. I like the idea of my "classic" WHQ set neatly ending in 1998!
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 Posted 04/07/2008  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hugemistake2003...........

In fact in a past discussion with a "U.S. critic" (augsburger....Love ya man!)months ago here on the forum.......a similar conversation began.
I "pointed out" all of the "bad stuff" and "horrible things" the U.S. had done....Slavery.....treatment of Native Americans.....and many other "ill intentioned" acts by the U.S. government........so I'm not "acting like that" at all.......(though it may have seemed so here, I admit)
I just get a little "defensive" when someone "not from this country".......expresses disparaging remarks about America or it's leaders and people....
This is not the first time this has come up with "Augsburger" and I respect him and his opinions for sure...(still love ya man!)...but I'm also entitled to voice my own opinions then.....
As far as the American/Euro coin........I was being completly sarcastic!.....There's no way that would work for reasons mentioned here....
In fact there was a "sarcastic tinge" to everything I said above.........forgive me, augsburger...and others not "getting that"......but my first reaction to "criticism of my Country" espicially from those who don't live here........is a "defensive" one !.........So I'll "lay it on a little thick"......in those occasions........it isn't "Blind Patriotism"......more "loyalty" and an "overall" view of my people and my government.......I don't like to be "run down" by outsiders.
Hugo Chavez speaking at the United Nations is a good example. After he ghastily insulted President Bush and our "government"........EVEN THE STAUNCHEST "LIBERAL DEMOCRATS" CAME TOGETHER TO BUSH'S DEFENSE !......Saying things like that about him and us in our own country......NOT COOL ! (yeah, I know that the UN in New York isn't U.S. property!).........but that's a good example of how I feel/felt.
So, maybe this will help ya see my stance a little clearer........I don't "act like the U.S. has never done evil or bad things"......not at all.....
I've spent a couple of decades trying to draw attention to the "bad things" we've done (govt. policies) and make people look at those things and care about them.......Native American issues are a "biggie" for me.......civil rights too.
Oh well......no offense meant "either way" ...I'm sure.......and none taken......
Augusburger......I love Great Britain too and hope to visit someday !.....luv ya man !.......Hope the weather in Germany is good to you !.......
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04/07/2008 11:44 am
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"I just get a little "defensive" when someone "not from this country".......expresses disparaging remarks about America or it's leaders and people...."

That is normal, I get spaniards telling me I cannot have an opinion on ETA, and americans telling me I can never understand the constitution, purely because of where I come from. But then if you criticise the US govt and are american you are a patriot, do the same but a foreigner and you are anti-american, I find it quite amusing really.

Just to make your skin crawl because I am like that, I would blame the US for venezuela needing someone like Chavez, hehe.

But I'm not taking it as an insult or anything, I mean, I'm more into telling serbs what they did between 1990 and 1999 and that really gets some nice responses.

But to get back on topic, one of the reasons why coins are great is because they ARE political, nazi coins, coins with kings and queens, presidents and the like. If they were just nice little happy pictures that meant nothing, no one would bother. I know this isn't the place for a full blown discusions on these things, but if they affect the coinage we have then I guess whatever your opinion it is valid, because american coins are about what the people think of their country and british coins are a little royal jigsaw puzzle that even a drunkard at 3am could complete. Hmm!
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 Posted 04/07/2008  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I don't like to be "run down" by outsiders.


I suppose the original native peoples might say that too...since most of us are somewhat recent occupiers.

Nothing personal to anyone, really...I just enjoy stirring the pot.

On the subject of criticism, the US needs to hear what other people say about our country, particularly how our foreign policy affects their lives. After all, we enjoy telling the world how to behave--so we should have an open ear as well.

I suppose I couldn't resist commenting, but I'll get back to coin talk.

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 Posted 04/07/2008  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TXcyclist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Nice. Anyway, the 2010 quarter will probably be the same as the '98, but with even lower relief. I do hope I'm wrong. A new design would be great.
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