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$20 1907 Gold Double Eagle Counterfeit?

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 Posted 04/04/2017  04:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lex1705 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello!
I had some conversation about this coin,I'm sure it's a counterfeit,very possible from the Middle East.So,please let me know your opinions about authenticity of this coin?
Please,every opinion is important for me

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 Posted 04/04/2017  08:07 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The sheen and surfaces are good indicators that this is a counterfeit. It might well be a gold piece of high purity but is not a genuine 1907 U.S. gold $20 coin.
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 Posted 04/05/2017  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lex1705 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BH1964 Thank you very much!
Are everybody agree?
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 Posted 04/05/2017  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susuman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. Something does not look right.
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I do, the surfaces remind me of modern US gold coins
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 Posted 04/05/2017  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a fake,besides having a grainy finishing on the surfaces of your coin the Rim and the Tail Feather details gives it away ,here are some pics. to compare yours with.


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 Posted 04/05/2017  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup agree surfaces are a dead giveaway I also see you noted possible casting bubbles too. Then whole surfaces are off, you'd expect hits since gold is so soft and scratches and dings easily.
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I agree and Lex has a right notion, I have seen examples of middle Eastern counterfeit gold coins with very similar finishes to this one!
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 Posted 04/06/2017  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fathead 5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse looks more counterfeit than the obverse.
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Thank you all!
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 Posted 04/11/2017  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add man2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These counterfeit $20s really scare me. After reading these post and other articles, I would not buy ANY gold coins ($1-$20) that are not NGC or PCGS certified. I even read about counterfeit gold pieces in fake NGC slabs. I think the fake NGC slab issue was a rarity. But, I still try to use the NGC search before buying any NGC certified coins. I'd rather pay a little more for Slabbed $1200-1400 coins and sleep better at night.
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man2004 ,thats a good rule of thumb when it comes to purchasing a premium coin and if you have to buy a Raw coin One thing that is always alarming is to note where the item /seller location is, in most cases ( not all) if you see a US Gold coin is being offered by a seller out of China,Russian federation,Germany Etc.... do not rush to purchase do your research,compare it to an actual genuine coin first.
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 Posted 04/11/2017  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add man2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Chase007! I've had one deal that had me very anxious from a seller on the US West Coast. But, it turned out OK. I will definitely take your advice about overseas sellers. I am also trying to purchase from people that I have dealt with in the past. Also, I am rethinking my gold investing after reading what Paralyse wrote in a different thread that I started about pre-1933 gold value potential. I still have a lot to learn to avoid losing my shirt!
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