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And The 7th, The Last One For Now

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There's probably another five or six posts that I can make but I really don't want to abuse the generosity that I've been shown so far so I'm going to let you all take a look at these first.

I think I've grouped them correctly but I know you'll all show me the error of my ways for the mistakes I've surely made.

Thanks in advance.
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The coin on the left is a reduced module maiorina of Constantius II with a falling horseman reverse and "D" in upper left field. The mintmark is off the flan but the field mark will help us narrow down the options FWIW.

The coin on right is an AE3 of Constantinopolis, a city commemorative for the new Roman capital city. This bears the exergual mark TRPdot> telling us it was minted in Treveri (Trier) first officina. It is either RIC VII Trier 530 or RIC VIII Trier 92 depending upon its size. What is the diameter of this coin to the nearest half millimeter?

If those striations below are millimeters, I count about 15 1/2 at the wide spot. That is a bit tight for the earlier coin, but the latter is not well attested. We would need to see if there is another dot in the exergue to be sure.

When in doubt go with the earlier coin (#530) to be sure.
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The scale at the bottom is in mm, so I count that at 15.5mm. Obviously the coin isn't perfectly round ... does that help?
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It always amazes me what a trained eye can see, but then I'm the same with watches (a serif out of place or the end of a second hand can tell you the exact year of production). I can't even make out the lettering you've described, let alone the dots. Do these help?



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My apologies, the "second dot" we would be looking for is to the left of the first letter of the mint mark. The earlier scan is better, and I took it into Photoshop:


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You can see that the first letter is a "T" but is there a dot to the left of it? At the opposite side can you see the dot to the right of the letter "P"? Is that an occlusion on the surface or part of the coin design?
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Now I see it! Well, I have the benefit of a really good triplex loupe and the dot to the right is clearly not an occlusion. However, if there was a dot to the left, it has long since gone (along with the edge of the coin).

And now that I have my "eye in", am I right in thinking that I'm looking at Victory, standing right, with hand on shield and holding ... a flail?
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It is Victory standing facing left (HER right) on the prow of a ship, but she holds a long scepter in HER right hand, and rests HER left on a shield.
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