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1960 Jefferson, Need Advice On Double?

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I was pretty sure this was a form of Machine Doubling, until I noticed some splitting at the ends of the letters/numbers. If Machine Doubling is supposed to be flat and shelf like, can it also gradually disappear into the field like the pictures? Then again I am not so sure it all looks flat and shelf like, or my eyes may just be fooling me. I was under the impression that Hub Doubling was the only form of doubling that causes split serifs.

Surely this can not be a Doubled Die because it displays doubling on both sides, right? This is pretty tricky stuff, I wish I had an example of each form sitting right in front of me. Its hard for me to say, yes, that is a Doubled Die or no that is Machine Doubled.

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It looks late die state to me. There are a few 1960s DDOs with a similar look on the inside loops of the devices, but I'm not feeling this is one. I'd have to look on Brian's site to confirm; have you had a look yet yourself?
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I think the obverse is machine damage. But CENTS looks like split serifs. What does everyone else think? I think you've got a DDR.
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No I have not visited the website yet, but I did look in my CherryPickers Guide and the strike it rich book but did not see anything for this date except one for a proof coin.
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But CENTS looks like split serifs.

and check out the F in five.

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Brian only lists WDDO-022 for business strikes. Doubling in the outer devices, but not the date. 3 business strike DDRs, but mainly in the lower outer devices.
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I looked through Brian's listings as well to see if any business strikes fit the bill with no luck. I didn't go through all the proof listings in the unlikely event that your coin is an impaired proof. I think it's extra tough to tell since you've got wear, MD, and DD going on (as far as I can see). You might consider sending it in for attribution if you think it's not an impaired proof but instead an unlisted business strike variety.
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Thank you all for looking at "Bryans" list of DD's.

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You might consider sending it in for attribution if you think it's not an impaired proof but instead an unlisted business strike variety.
Wow, that would be cool to have a coin attributed to a listing! I just noticed I did not have any of the lower reverse lettering in the pictures.

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Looks flat and shelf like to me, soooo MD.
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