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I got this as scrape about a week ago.    I have 2 1921 the 22 is the same thickness + stacks like the 21 I have. Middle 1.07 rim .97 same as my 1921's Monday its going to SEG for grading and to see if it's a matte finish. Has anyone ever seen a 1922 Matte finish  If so please post it! Edited by amac44
04/20/2008 04:44 am
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Check out 1922P Peace Dollar- VAM2-E- (HOT 50 Peace dollars) Vertical gouge between the 1 & 9 Not sure, but your coin looks like it might match that- Good luck! Matte finish?- can't help you there, don't know anything about it. |
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I have only seen 1-1922 matte finish at the Smithsonian and that was 15yrs ago maybe more. But thickness of this coin make me think its a 22 matte finish the middle of the coins 107mm rim is.98mm and that's about the same as the high relief 1921.
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I have never seen one, and if this is one...you have a great find ! I found one site with a few pictures and descriptions : http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dol...e_dollar.htm Maybe that will help. I would not get my hopes up though, it says that only 6-8 known high relief matte coins and 2-4 low relief matte coins have been found thus far. |
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That way this going to SEG Monday NGC & PCGS would body bag it. It needs to be graded it looks the 1st coin on that page from coin facts
*****thanks for the info!
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"body bag it"? Place it in a slab?
John Booth
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I think I will spend 9.50 and have SEG look at it. Its like having ICG look at it but faster SEG about 400 miles away from me
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JBBooth: In reverse order: To get slabbed: to have it encased (put into a hard plastic case) with a grade & guarantee of authenticity, by a TPG (Third Party Grading service) for example NGC or PCGS. It is one way to prove that the coin is authentic and graded properly, if done by a reputable company 9for non-reputable see SGS). Body Bag: To get the coin back from the grading service as cleaned, fake, or damaged. It comes back in a soft plastic case (kinda like a baggie). |
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Probably not a Matte considering it isn't a high relief.
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Its not a normal 1922 its to thick.
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The RedBook shows a listing for a high relief and a normal relief matte finish. The normal relief is actually more valuable, atleast in MS 65. |
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There is also the most miniscule possibility of the coin being a circulation strike , high relief coin. Supposedly about 35,000 were struck. I can't tell for sure without seeing the coin just what this one is. As for a Matte finish or a Satin finish. Honestly, forget about it. The surface is so marred and scratched that it is highly unlikely that any grader will attribute it as any kind of marred proof.
I'll try to find some diagnostics for the circulation, high relief coin to see if it might be one of those.
Thanks,
Bill
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04/24/2008 02:25 am
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OK, the diagnostics are all wrong for any of the high relief coins. So Conder 101 nailed it immediately. The 9 is all wrong in the date and the 2s are all wrong.
On a high relief coin, the inside loop of the 9 is almost closed and points upward ,not to the right as on normal 1922 coins. Also on the high relief coins the bottoms of the 2s have distinct waves to them.
This coin has neither.
Sorry but that's about it.
Thanks,
Bill
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04/24/2008 02:32 am
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According to Van Allen and Mallis encyclopedia. etc. the few 1922 high relief proof coins used the same reverse as the 1921. That reverse is easy to tell as it had 8 rays below the eagle tail instead of 6, although the 8th is tough to see, but at least you can see 7 easy. In the high relief reverse, there are also 4 rays below the E in ONE and only 3 rays below the E in the regular 1922 reverse. Since none of these exist in the photos of your coin, I am sure that will cause rejection of the matte possibility by the grading company. But these things always give excitement for a while and that is good!
Jim
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Well it when out Monday. I guess it will come back as a normal VF scared up 1922.
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