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Advice On Purchasing A 1911 D Indian Quarter Eagle

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So I am at the very preliminary stages of shopping for a 1911 D gold quarter eagle. This will be the most expensive coin I have ever purchased so I want to get it right. My only requirements are that it is housed in a NGC holder and is problem free. I would love for the grade to be AU58 but I will be happy as long as I can find one in the AU50-58 range.

Question #1- Are the "weak d" version usually cheaper than the "strong d"? I can't even see a "D" from some of the pictures I see of "weak D" graded examples on ebay. I am leaning towards a "strong D" example. If I pay this kind of money I want to be able to see it without a microscope!

Question #2- If you own an 1911 D, what type did you go with and why?

Question #3- I will be the first to admit I have not done a lot of research yet on these. Why are some mintmark's weak and some strong on these? Just bad strikes?

Thanks for your help!
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I would get the strong D.
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Different dies

The strong D is more popular and brings stronger prices. I put an AU-58 in my mint state set and it blends in just fine. It is not a rare coin and you will have a choice of them if you are patient. Here's mine

https://coins.ha.com/itm/indian-qua.../1241-4469.s
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My semi-educated opinion on this... Those coins are incuse -- the design is below the surface of the field, which means the design on the die was raised. But mint marks are punched into the die, so on the finished coin, the mint mark is the only design element higher than the rest of the design and it the first thing to wear down. So a "strong D" would indicate minimal wear on the mint mark and commands a premium price.
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^ This is totally incorrect. The strong and weak Ds were as struck.
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Well, I did say "semi-educated". I stand corrected.
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Use Stacks, Heritage, and Great Collections to view past sales. You can look at tons of them to learn the tiny grade difference between 50, 53, 55, and 58. That will give you some help in self grading to avoid an overgraded example.

Also prices will be much easier to comprehend and will give you a common range of sales at each grade.

I agree with NGC over PCGS for this coin as NGC is a shade tighter on these.

Fall in love with your beauty before you bid or buy.
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Excellent advice.
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Congrats on shopping for such a fine coin.

I wish you well!
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What's an estimated cost to own of these in problem free AU grade?
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I would definitely go with a strong D. Be patient and find one that you will enjoy, particularly so with this much money. Keep an eye on the auctions from more noteable sites like Heritage too. I believe a really nice MS-61 sold a week or so ago for around $5,700 which in my opinion was a great price and someone got really lucky.
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Yes, try for an AU 58, and in an old holder if possible. Some of those AU 58 coins regrade as a 61 sometimes. Definitely go for a stroung MM.
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Be patient and set your limits. There is always another coin out there. It is easy to get impatient and overpay. Getting "THE COIN" at a fair price is your ultimate goal. The other members are on the money. The auctions show the true values and help you set your limits (accounting for buyer's fee). Good luck and Great choice in coins. A higher grade strong D should hold its value nicely!
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Thanks for all the great advice. I really have no choice but to be patient for a while...When the time comes it will be a Strong D.
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I would get a coin in a PCGS holder, with CAC. It will be worth more when the time comes to sell it.
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