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1902 Morgan And 1824 Half For Grading

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Got these from my buddy. Obviously I can return them if I don't like them. The 1902 looks like a weak strike which is typical for the year. My question is to dip the ugly toning. I think it's a solid 65 the cheek is remarkably mark free. The 1824 looks solid xf maybe 45, some spots of luster remain.

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1902: Looks like a weakly struck 64. Cheek may be nice, but the strike matters in making 65. This one doesn't. I like the toning. If you dip it, I think it would be a mistake.

1824: Looks like a cleaned vf. I would find a nicer one - these are plentiful.
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Yea I was 50/50 on the 1824. The 1902 I'm leaning on keeping the toning, it may reveal issues if I remove it. I have seen on PCGS coinfacts the 1902 isn't uncommon for weak strikes. I saw several examples with photos similar to mine making 65 and a few 66. I'm gonna return the 1824 tomorrow when I get back from the Yankees game I'm going to. He has a solid pl 1881 s and 1880 s Morgan. Also a nice 1881 o.
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The 1902 looks AU from those pictures (A dip would really bring out the luster if MS). Could be MS. I just can't tell, but I would not wager on it.

The 1824 looks VF details. The surfaces appear to be cleaned, and there is a dig above the head.

Sorry to be so negative.
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Don't clean the Morgan. I, and many others, like this original tone, especially when it's near match obverse and reverse.

Half is typical Retoned VF. I'd pass on that one.
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send in the 1902 unless you decide to take a chance and dip but it could grade decently from the pics shown. I thought AU but you mentioned that it looked very nice in hand. I told you before but the 24 half is probably cleaned so return that one
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The 1902 looks 65 quality if not for the dull luster. I think dipping this one would not give you the results you are looking for so leave it alone. MS-64 on this one.

1824 50c VF-35 details, cleaned
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63 and VF-35 straight.
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AU53 on the 1902 (it's been circulated); a 50/50 might bump it up to a 55/58 depending on the remaining luster

The 1824 Bust Half is VF35, but might slide into an XF40 holder at a TPG; I agree with most everyone else that it's been messed with.
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I gave back the 1824 half. Got a 1881 s, 1880 s both pl minimum. Also a nice 1881 o with a good shot at 65. The 1902 and the 3 others are off to PCGS next time.
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