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Picked This Off E-Bay, Cheap 1909 S VDB Your Opinion Please.

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 Posted 08/05/2017  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Centsei to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May I ask a question: why would someone make a fake coin with the VDB barely visible and an advanced amount of wear on the whole coin? And if the answer is, well, that makes the buyer less wary, OK, but then the second question: why can't the fakers look up the standard MM position just like we do?
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 Posted 08/06/2017  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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May I ask a question: why would someone make a fake coin with the VDB barely visible and an advanced amount of wear on the whole coin? And if the answer is, well, that makes the buyer less wary, OK, but then the second question: why can't the fakers look up the standard MM position just like we do?


It would depend when it was faked. If it was faked pre-internet, who would know? It's not like the library had a prehistoric version of photoshop to do comparisons like those provided here, and even generic photos wouldn't have been good enough to make a correct assessment.

Even with the internet and fancy photo-editing programs, most wouldn't know what to look for, or how to even figure out how to look for it.

It could be a 1909 VDB that had been in circulation for 50 years before a MM was added. Even in the '60's this S-VDB was valuable enough to warrant fakes for the unscrupulous. Look at all the fake Trade dollars out there, or high-end Morgans, that have accelerated or artificial wear. So think of how much a bonus it is to find a naturally worn '09 VDB, and just have to add a MM.

If it's worth a buck, there are imitations/copies/fakes of it out there.
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 Posted 08/12/2017  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giorgio11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Every time I see "cheap 1909-S VDB" I think "uh oh!" There's a reason why some coins are cheap ... they're not SVDBs!
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 Posted 08/12/2017  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carwash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It was listed as a 1909 S I did not see the vdb until I had it in hand. Then I looked at the photo in the add and saw the vdb.


You must have missed this.

My topic statement was wrong.
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 Posted 08/12/2017  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giorgio11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I didn't. So he bought it as a cheap 1909-S. Still as a fake SVDB, it's worth zip beyond its educational value.
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