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Two 80's Lincoln Cents. Cut Planchet? Melted?

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 Posted 08/26/2017  7:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PilcrowsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I came across these Two Cents while looking through a box.
Think the one is a cut planchet? if so, kind of a bummer its rotting. Has good color, but the bubbles destroyed it.
The other one looks melted.. but I'm not sure how. Since there isn't any color change, no shoulder burn ect ect. Pretty cool. Think its man made or could something like this happen while being minted?

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'Nuff said...

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@Spence the first one could most likely be PMD.. I never seen a cut planchet in person. But the 2nd one.. its different. The obverse side is smashed/melted. It looks more egg shape. The back looks like a normal penny. The obverse, If a belt sander hit it. More of it would of been sanded down. If they went around the corners, it would show a different angle and shape and show the dark center like on top. But it looks even, flat, melted or like the center heated up and something was pressed on top. I'll have to take a photo of the sides so you can see the pressure and the lip.. You could be right. I just don't know how someone could do this with a sander, without scratch marks or the 1986 and the shoulder also being sanded. Then again. I don't see how an iron could do this either or a car tire.
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 Posted 08/26/2017  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PilcrowsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I'd add, if it was sanded. The color would all go one direction on the copper. Either all left, or all right. But its like dropping straight down and it's bleeding outwards from all angles.
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Oriole, exactly what I'm working on, 'cept computer went kaput, working on getting new one up and running.

Pilcrow, a cut coin would have sharp edges,burrs. #1 is sanded or ground down, beveled a bit to smooth it out.
#2 isn't heated at all, discoloration would happen. If the marks are circular, either a rotary disc(dremel) was used or it was under Little Johnie in the Garage's shoe on the concrete floor. I'd post pix, by, see above!

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So here is some pics for the 2nd cent.
I took a penny and hit it with a hammer a few dozen times to try and get the look. Using a flat head hammer. Results don't look the same lol. I also used a disc sander on my dremel and you can see the cuts in the coin.

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Hammer hits above
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dremel, I tried touching just the head and got bad results

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Here is images of the side lip on the coin. Then a comparison to the other two I sanded and smashed.

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image of the back. The left side looks like it got "smashed" or took on that smeared out effect.

To me after looking at more images. I'm thinking more of a mint error now. Cause the pressure around the edges are more compressed and even then smeared with a bunch of marks like the hammer and sander produced. I should be getting my micro lens camera later this week. I'll look closer at the "helmet" cause it looks melted more so then smashed to me.
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The second coin looks like it was set on a freshly varnished surface or something similar then turned over and allowed to dry. THEN it was circulated for a while to give it that texture. Try soaking it in acetone or paint thinner.
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