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Thoughts On My Ebay Purchase Canadian 50 Cent Piece

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 Posted 10/03/2017  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the OP..............

You have very selective standards and I recommend you only buy a coin at a coin show where you can inspect it in-hand.

Quite honestly, if I was the seller and I heard of your reason for sending it back, I wouldn't be pleased at all, especially for a $20 purchase.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen a lot of pictures on ebay that have done a fantastic job with showing the coins accurately. It was pointed out that this listing showed scans, not pictures. So I conclude that scans do not accurately depict a coin. $20 lesson learned. In a way I kinda feel mislead as I based my purchase on the scan but what I got looked totally different. The seller should have noticed the difference and do a better job at capturing its true look. I am not sure why they chose to scan rather than take actual photos. I am not returning the coin as the return shipping and wait time would not be worth it for a $20 purchase. I would still like to do business with them but for now on I will ask for actual photos.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually don't think those pictures came from a scanner.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Percy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dark toning can be ugly I like rainbow toning like this Morgan dollar

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1897-Morgan...AOSw-QRZzpur

To get a MS graded 50 cent piece for 20 bucks imho is a good deal
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 Posted 10/03/2017  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin is a perfect candidate for dipping. What have you got to lose ? Cut it out of the holder and give it a 10 second dip in Tarn-x and you'll have a great looking coin.
Why leave an ugly coin the way it is; the idea of coin collecting is to have the nicest ones or closest to mint state. If done correctly, cleaning a coin is a very easy option. Just try rubbing a dirty old cent on you T-shirt and see the difference; you cleaned it but didn't do any harm. Silver coins didn't come from the mint with tarnish so why leave it there if there is a benign solution ? The coin isn't changed, only the oxidation is removed, no scratches, no rub marks.
I got this 1960 50 cents for $18.00 Cdn.back in January. No one else bid probably because it was so ugly, with dark splotchy tarnish. I cut it out and dipped it and look at it now (marks are on the plastic) !


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 Posted 10/04/2017  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just won an auction on ebay for this coin @ $23.99 and I think I did quite well!!

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 Posted 10/05/2017  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Percy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see dipping[cleaning] newer coins to get rid of the dark tarnish toning but I have a graded 1934 Canadian 50 cent piece that is imo a great coin and because of the wash it only grades VF-20.Graded by ICCS comments Silver Wash.I will post pics as soon as I figure out how.

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 Posted 10/06/2017  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
doubleeagle59's post about being selective points out the conundrum that arises when purchasing a coin from a photograph when you are selective about your coins, as I am. Very few sellers are able to capture the true essence of a coin in photos, and most photos do not represent a coin's actual appearance. As a result, I very seldom buy a coin online anymore.

To the OP - I have never had a dealer take offense upon requesting a refund (large or small) under a return policy, and if they were not happy they probably kept it to themselves. I'd request a refund and, moving forward, ask a whole lot of questions of the seller in advance before purchasing a coin with poor photos.
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 Posted 10/06/2017  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I actually don't think those pictures came from a scanner.


I agree, unless they are using carpet for the scanner lid.

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 Posted 10/07/2017  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It can be difficult judging a coin by poor pictures. Buying a coin in person just isn't feasible for me...lack of dealers in area. It wouldn't hurt for sellers to offer multiple pictures with different angles and lighting instead of using the one that hides the flaws. Some pictures are just plain fuzzy and it seems they don't take the time to get clean photos.


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doubleeagle59's post about being selective points out the conundrum that arises when purchasing a coin from a photograph when you are selective about your coins, as I am. Very few sellers are able to capture the true essence of a coin in photos, and most photos do not represent a coin's actual appearance. As a result, I very seldom buy a coin online anymore.

To the OP - I have never had a dealer take offense upon requesting a refund (large or small) under a return policy, and if they were not happy they probably kept it to themselves. I'd request a refund and, moving forward, ask a whole lot of questions of the seller in advance before purchasing a coin with poor photos.
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 Posted 10/07/2017  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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ask a whole lot of questions of the seller in advance before purchasing a coin with poor photos.


Sound advice indeed, but ............

for a $20 coin that has already been professionally graded, answering a flurry of questions to me, is a waste of time for both parties.
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 Posted 10/07/2017  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Happy to see you got what you wanted, I'd still take the one with toning.

I take form this, selling coins isn't easy. I can't see either seller profiting anything off these at those prices, probably losing.

These guys are working for peanuts to provide a service.
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I just won an auction on ebay for this coin @ $23.99 and I think I did quite well!!


When you get the coin, can you post better photos? I think you did more than well... that reverse looks like it was struck with early dies...
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The problem with taking eye appeal into consideration when grading is that it becomes subjective. A good example of that is when ICCS grades (or misgrades) beautifully toned high grade Canadian copper. I am a firm believer that natural toning should not be taken into account in grading coins. I personally appreciate coins that look like this because they are unique in their appearance. As long as the toning was caused naturally (and there are numerous opinions on what that is) I rather see a 64 graded coin sell at 63 prices because it's ugly as opposed to see it net-graded to someone's liking depending on what side of the bed they woke up that morning.
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SPP-Ottawa, I will most definitely post pictures when I receive it. I am thinking it may be here by Tuesday.


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When you get the coin, can you post better photos? I think you did more than well... that reverse looks like it was struck with early dies...


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