1883 Indian Cent- Terminal Die State? Crazy Die Breaks On Reverse.

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Eric19 Valued Member United States 136 Posts	Posted 10/21/2017 4:23 pm Recently picked up this 1883 Indian Head cent with crazy die breaks/cuds on reverse. Are there any references for cuds/die breaks? What do you all think about it? Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 10/21/2017 4:53 pm http://indiancent.wikispaces.com/1883 https://indianvarieties.com/ John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Eric19 Valued Member United States 136 Posts	Posted 10/21/2017 7:51 pm Thanks for the help John1 Wiki spaces is new to me and is something I will use as reference from now on. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 10/21/2017 9:35 pm It looks to have a couple of Retained Cuds but I couldn't find a listing for 1883. http://cuds-on-coins.com/indian-head-cent-rcd/ In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Report this Post to the Staff
Eric19 Valued Member United States 136 Posts	Posted 10/22/2017 02:30 am I didn't know there was a website for Cuds on coins. Thanks spruett for that! Report this Post to the Staff
indiancentvarieties Valued Member United States 70 Posts	Posted 10/22/2017 1:32 pm That is from the 1883 Variety 18 die pairing, where Obverse 23 is paired with a severely cracked Reverse W. Reverse W has not formed any die breaks, but exhibits heavy die cracking. The web page may be found here: http://indiancentvarieties.com.fqdn...iety018.html Report this Post to the Staff
Eric19 Valued Member United States 136 Posts	Posted 10/23/2017 01:15 am You nailed it right on the head! Thanks for find it for me Do you have any idea on what its worth? Report this Post to the Staff
indiancentvarieties Valued Member United States 70 Posts	Posted 10/23/2017 06:34 am 1883 Variety 18a is tentatively URS-7 in regard to rarity; however, I have only seen 5 examples inlcuding yours thus far. Of the 5, one is plated in the book and the other was an XF with a number of hits on the obverse and reverse that I sold a couple of years ago. In my opinion, I have priced the variety at 50%-100% premium for the Variety 18a die state. Examples in AU and mint state would be closer to the 100% premium or higher. Reverse W degraded rapidly and it is difficult to determine how long Reverse W remained in service. Variety 18 is certainly an interesting die pairing and I think it is worthy of seeking out. Edited by indiancentvarieties 10/23/2017 06:36 am Report this Post to the Staff
Eric19 Valued Member United States 136 Posts	Posted 10/24/2017 01:37 am Wow, that is some quite in depth research of die pairings! I think your speculation that reverse W degraded quickly is probably true considering the magnitude of the die cracks and the rarity census of the coin so far. I think it would be pretty neat to get this coin slabbed by ANACS, especially considering they are the best in certifying varieties, even obscure ones like this. Also, its a decent XF condition and would be a nice collector piece if someone sought out this pairing. Again, thanks for all the research and info you shared. People like you are what makes this community such a great place to discuss coins. Regards, Eric Report this Post to the Staff
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