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Morgan 1885 Looks Like A DDR But Can't Find A Similar - Please Help

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 Posted 10/30/2017  6:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tryingmybest to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello and thank you in advance for your assistance. I have attached pictures as well.

Although I initially thought it was Mechanical Doubling, there are so many areas with full thickness separation lines as well as a serif of the M designer initial on the reverse, and other doubling. Areas of note in the pictures are the star next to "CA", separation lines at the ends of both L's in Dollar, The designer's initial, doubling of feathers,eagle head, and branches, and also odd happenings on "WE TRUST". I'd really like to hear your thoughts on the "WE TRUST" as I have not seen this before.

Thank you for your help- still learning.


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 Posted 10/30/2017  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is MD, notice that it just mark in to the original design albeit slightly. Notice how the effects are seen in TRUST very well. Not as blatant as others, look at these:



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 Posted 10/30/2017  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tryingmybest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for answering so quickly. I had assumed MD initially but the apparent separation line on the star, ends of LL's and the beak appear full thickness. The designers initial also seems to have a serif. Can you help clarify these areas for me. They really through me off. I appreciate it.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The designers initial also seems to have a serif

The designer initial is incused, If my memory serves me right, the rules are reversed for incused lettering. So split serifs are actually indicative of MD in this case.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tryingmybest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for clarifying. I had to look up incused. Was laughing as I rarely meet a word I don't know the meaning of. However, I learned it means hammered or struck. I apologize for my ignorance but I guess it is the same the separate strike of an old mint mark. I would not think the MD would effect a separately struck detail? If I saw a serif on a mint mark I would be thinking RPM?
Again, not questioning your experience- just trying to learn so I can improve my recognition.
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on this topic.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incused, in coin talk is a design that is recessed as opposed to protruding. The M is recessed.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The small "indent" for lack of better in the top right can be considered a small die chip. I'll try to explain. Think in reverse, when thinking design elements. The "incuse" of the M on the die is actually a raised portion within the indented Ribbon....on the face of the die as we look at it. Being raised, the areas toward the tips are the weakest point of the metal as formed, thereforethose edges are most prone to break off during constant repetitive poundings of coin making. it is a small piece of damage that normal polishing can't correct being inside a design element. Same thing is happening on the ATB Quarters of today. Hope that makes sense.
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 Posted 10/30/2017  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tryingmybest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Big Silver and Crazyb0- I now get it :) Thanks for taking your time to reply to me.
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