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This my 4th coin in my quest to go through my dads colonials I have needed help on. I am getting better at trying to figure out the varieties but I am not sure on this one. I was thinking/hoping this was a RR37. And looking for everyones feedback. Sorry for the not so great pics.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Assuming the Whitman book is accurate it is definitely RR-37. 1788 mailed bust facing right, obv legend VERMON .AUCTORI. REV has double line above the date. (the double line is only seen on RR-22, 37, 23, and 36) Liberty's hand with the olive branch is opposite the D (only seen on RR-22 and 37) The olive branch just about touches the E. That's RR-37, on RR-22 it is well right of the E. Finally the image of RR-37 in Whitman shows a strong die crack from the upper line above the date down to the rim. You coin also shows this die crack and this reverse is only used on RR-37. link to Heritage of a RR-37, it matches yours including the die crack. Heritage coin looks to be a later stage of the crack possibly forming a Cud. https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/.../1216-5828.sEdited by Conder101
11/02/2017 4:21 pm
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Oh wow, that one is a little nicer...but he'll like the rarity of it. I am not sure what a " Cud" is. It looks like this auction ended...and I can't tell what it sold for, I suppose I could sign up to find out unless someone knows. |
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Pillar of the Community
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That example sold for $30,550 including the buyer's premium
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This is not what I expected...how do you think his compares condition wise compared to the one auctioned. Also, I am guessing this is one he should have graded (slabbed)? He has been resistant to sending any of his coins in...is that an old school way of thinking, I am not sure. It might be a tough sell to get him to do it. What would he expect to pay to have that done? I assume I would do this through PGCS. I will have to check into what it takes to do that.
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Quote:I am not sure what a " Cud" is. A Cud occurs when a piece of the die breaks off and falls away at the edge of the die. Since that piece is missing the planchet metal fills the void creating a smooth lump there are the edge. On the link I posted earlier it looks like the crack going down to the rim is present and a second crack going out horizontally is also there, and a triangular piece of the die between those two cracks has broken away creating a Cud at that spot. I would say the sharpness of your piece is slightly better but the porosity is worse and it has a major lamination on the bust. EAC net grade would probably be G-4 maybe G-6. |
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Nice example - you are indeed fortunate.
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Thanks again condor as you have helped me with my other posts. I think I will have to get a Whitman book to help me with the remaining colonials that he has. I am sure I will be seeking your knowledge with them as well.
Thanks Coinfrog...when I saw him yesterday telling him everyones thoughts he was genuinely excited to hear about it. I am trying to get him to have some of his key pieces graded...at least the two Vermonts and the Kentucky. What is interesting, and why I don't know much about these, he mainly collected Canadian and had bought these colonials 50 years ago as a batch from a dealer...I think there are 46 of them in total. He cataloged them at one time but that was many years ago so its been that long since hes seen them and doesn't remember all the variety types he has.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't mind helping but I will warn you colonials are not my strongest subject.
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