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Thanks again

the Leeuwendaalder / Lion Dollar deserves perhaps more than a little attention within this thread

Originally the purpose of this new type of money was not an international trade coin - as it would become later
It was made in the beginning (1575-77) to raise an income to support the army of the Dutch revolt against Spain.
Regular money (Philipsdaalders and Bourgondische Kruisdaalders) with a higher silver content (90%) were melted and the silver was mixed with about 15% copper.

The Dutch were an underdog against the Spanish superpower, but with the income of the Leeuwendaalder the revolt survived and became stronger.

Here is a Type 1b from the early months of 1576, rarer than the type 2 that is showed above. The knight on the obverse looks almost like a figure mocking the authority of the king.

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Here is a Type 1b from the early months of 1576, rarer than the type 2 that is showed above.
Very nice!

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The knight on the obverse looks almost like a figure mocking the authority of the king.
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Your Leeuwendaalders are fantastic, 1c5d7n5m! And thank you for the history lesson - greatly appreciated.
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thanks Hondo Boguss,

to be complete, there is still one more piece to show: an example of the type 1a, the first Leeuwendaalder which was produced during the last month of 1575 in the mint of Dordrecht, then the largest city in Holland

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conditions were chaotic in those days in Holland: the army of the Duke of Alva still swept through the country with the goal of severely repressing the revolt, but actually they were on their retreat towards Belgium having failed to crush the resistance

as I wrote yesterday the Geuzen (the Dutch rebels) were in great need for fresh money to pay for the cost of their own soldiers

the type 1a Leeuwendaalder was clearly an experiment, carried out with haste, so the design of the knight was rather clumsy; however, the rampant lion on the reverse and the legends were winners from the start and remained the same for over a century

this type 1a Leeuwendaalder (Delmonte 829) is the first coin of the independent Dutch republic, and it surprises that so few collectors know about this piece

the great haste and chaos in the mint of Dordrecht, and perhaps the lack of a clear idea of what the new Leeuwendaalder should look like, probably caused the two upgrades of the obverse

See below the metamorphosis of the knight from a ghost-like figure - via a mocking peasant - to a rebel that emaniates strength of will to win, all this within one year of time

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the metamorphosis is most prominent for the hand of the rebel that holds the coat of arms of the state of Holland; a province which would unite in 1579 with Zeeland, Utrecht, Gelderland, Friesland to create United States of the Dutch republic

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to be complete, there is still one more piece to show: an example of the type 1a, the first Leeuwendaalder which was produced during the last month of 1575 in the mint of Dordrecht, then the largest city in Holland...
Fascinating! Thank you for completing the set!
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India 1969 10 Rupees

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1868 Guatemala ¼ Real. A whopping 11.4 mm diameter and 0.77 g.
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Nice example!
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Nice example IGE and Hondo Boguss.
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1952 East African Shilling:
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Nice examples Hondo Boguss and NumisRob.
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