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Bedrock of the Community
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I stumbled across this ebay listing that has pictures of what appears to be something that shouldn't exist. 152819137893  They state that the pictured coin is one that sold previously. The centering of the A in STATES and the M in AMERICA definitely look like a Wide AM. The FG is in between to my eye. From what I understand, all 1993 cents should be Close AM. Has anyone heard of a 1993 proof Wide AM?  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"The coin in the pictures is one we had sold previously." Never buy a coin with that in the description. I haven't heard of any Wide AM 1993 cents being found, Proof or business strikes. The coin in his photos could be of two different coins. EDIT: Reading through the seller's feedback, it appears he/she does what they can to mislead buyers. Over 100 neg/neutral in the past 6 months. Edited by cwb
12/11/2017 12:29 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it was one pictured I would have took the gamble for a dollar something lol but who knows what you will get might get one with a "lamination error" instead aka road rash lol
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice detective work, Mrzllewellyn!  That is indeed the same reverse picture. @cwb I didn't scan the seller's feedback (was not interested in buying anything, just curious). That much negative and neutral is a red flag for sure. So, it appears that the seller is intentionally misleading buyers by putting those two pictures up (of different coins) while claiming they are of the same coin.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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anything for a buck , so sad   |
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United States
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I've bought coins from that seller before, never had any problems. I read through the description posted in the listing, and I didn't see anything claiming it to be anything other than a 1993-s proof cent. Am I missing something here? They do state upfront that the pics are not the coin the buyer would receive, so I'm having a hard time seeing deception here. If they were trying to pass this off as a Wide AM or other variety, wouldn't it be listed higher? |
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:If they were trying to pass this off as a Wide AM.... Picture shows a Wide AM. Little things to mislead the subconscious mind.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote:Picture shows a Wide AM. Little things to mislead the subconscious mind. Granted. However, in the listing, it never says anything about being a Wide AM. So is the thought on this that the seller is trying to mislead buyers into purchasing the coin thinking that they are getting a bargain on a wide-AM coin not recognized as such by the seller? Seems pretty devious to me, especially with an asking price of under $2. Now if the seller was stating in the listing that the coin a wide-AM and/or listing the coin for a much higher price, then I would absolutely agree that they are being deceptive. But it looks to me like they just made an unfortunate choice in their selection of the stock photo for this listing. I guess I'm just seeing a poorly put-together listing here rather than deliberate deception. I know there are plenty of dishonest sellers on ebay out there and the last thing in the world I want to do is defend one. I would pass on this listing anyway as I do not make purchases based on stock photos after having been burned before. But I really do think this is a case of messing up a listing with a poorly-chosen photo rather than deception. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I think their feedback says it all.
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Moderator
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 Stay away from this one. There is no 1993-S proof strike WAM in existence that has ever been verified as authentic. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the input, everyone. I also do not normally buy coins using stock photos. I have before but, only from one seller whom I trust. This one just made me curious. Did the seller take these photos not being aware that it was something special or was there a photo mix up? Mrzllewellyn found that it was indeed two different coins pictured. As far as motive, it may be an oversight in the listing process combined with lack of knowledge of the reverse differences. Or, there is a small chance that it was placed there intentionally to up the quantity of sales to people thinking they may be cherrypicking an unknown variety. I have seen that before when searching '46 WLHs for the DDR. I'll find one that looks very promising and then scroll down to see the seller has 20 available. Was it just coincidence the stock photo was a DDR?  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wonder.  |
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Posted 12/11/2017 12:56 am
