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You Vs. PCGS: 1887 Indian Cent

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Got this last week from a fellow CCF member. I want to preface by saying this coin is INCREDIBLY difficult for me to photograph, and what I have is the best I could do...

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a little fuzzy but i'll put out an AU55 grade
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I too am in the 50-55 range.
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4 diamonds but other details look flat (just the pictures?)
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AU range, but patina looks too flat in pictures.
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Combination of wear and weak strike in my opinion .
AU-55 .
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Agree AU-55.
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AU53-55.
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Looks like a very soft strike to me.
Could be MS
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No one is even close
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Well then 45. If we are going to be off we might as well be off in the direction.
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Well not even close so since I was wrong before I will go with a flyer at Genuine AT

Now I am wondering how "poorly" your pics are representing this coin
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Stumped, but now guessing a low-MS BN grade. Running out of options!
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Well now it's a guessing game - we can only grade the coin from the pictures that are shown. How can you say "grade this coin from the pictures provided" - then say pictures are not very good? Makes ya feel like -



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Here's a possible clue to how seriously PCGS's standards for Indian cents have fallen: 292368861185
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