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Edited by wrongalot
05/17/2008 2:16 pm
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Yes it is....Lets see a few pictures of the word TRUST, if possible.
I can't tell you which one it is as there are too many doubled dies on 1989 and 1989 D cents to keep track of:-)
But this is one of the minor doubled dies. Even the shape of the 9 indicates this. It is thin on the upper right of the digit and thicker elsewhere. If the coin were struck a little better, you would see signs of a groove and a notch at the tip of the tail of the 9.
This does not mean that every 1989 or 1989 D cent that has a thicker 9 is a doubled die. It just helps on this piece to see it in conjunction with the other things on this coin.
I hope this helps.
Bill
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05/17/2008 10:57 pm
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I thinks what you have is MD. :(
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I've seen plenty of 1985-9 that look like this - it's really DDO? The doubling looks really flat like MD would be and it's only overly noticable on the 8 and 9's of the date. It seems like almost all the coins from that date range also exhibit the minor split serif on the LIBERTY. What makes this clearly DDO instead of MD, Bill? Or are all the coins I'm seeing DDO and it's just extremely common for that date range and not valuable? |
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This is why I don't like cents, I can't see anything. Copper coins always throw my eyes off, that's why I stick to silver.
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Hi, Here are pictures of the 1989 version that lines up the 1989 D version shown above. The original coin in the thread has that weird scraped look to the surface that you often see on the plated coins. The pictures below are from three of the same 1989 doubled die obverse. The pictures are from different individual coins as I was working on something to show what to look for on coins of different conditions. S keep in mind that mine are of a 1989 from the Philly Mint but the principles are the same. The date shows the widening of the numerals and the shapes that I mentioned above. The 9 is thinner at the curve and thicker everywhere else. You can see the notch at the end of the 9 if you look carefully. The 8 is wider at the lower right. The first 9 in the date is also wider. On the word TRUST, you can see the die doubling especially well as a notch on the R and doubling of the U and S... both Ts just appear to the trained eye to be longer due to the direction of the doubling. On the original coin in this thread, the details are flattened but you can see the extra thickness on the lower part of the R and S in TRUST. The LIBERTY shows notches on the lower right of the R and the upper right of the T on my coin. The coin at the beginning of the thread shows it as well and includes a better view of the doubling on the B. Some doubled dies are very subtle and they have what is called a close spread. On those you have to become extremely familiar with the correct shapes and sizes of all the letters and numerals to cue you in on things. Then you can look for notches. Thanks, Bill    Edited by foundinrolls
05/18/2008 11:05 pm
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Seattle MD,
There are quite a few very nice DDOs on coins dated from 1980 to 1989, There are many in the range 1985 to 1989 that are similar in nature to the 1989 shown here. So keep in mind that they can be on any dates. The only dates in that range that I have not personally found any DDOs are on 1981, 1987 and 1988 cents. That doesn't mean they dont exist, I just haven't found any. The key is knowing if you are looking at a Doubled die or just details produced by a worn die. The pictures I placed up there should help. These are subtle, not like the huge ones!
Thanks,
Bill
PS: we are practically neighbors if your handle means anything:-)
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Bill - A couple years ago I fished for cutthroat off the beach right near that little inlet w/ the bridge over it that Google Maps shows as the center of Olalla. Only time I've ever been in your neighborhood - currently I'm residing in Redmond :)
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uh-oh! This isn't in the 2009 Red Book...I have gone through like 10 boxes of pennies and didn't study that date closely at all! Is there another book I need to have? |
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Hi Seattle MD, I know exactly where you mean. Technically, I'm Port Orchard on the edge of Olalla.
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05/19/2008 2:54 pm
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