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1892-P Morgan Silver Dollar Grade Inquiry

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 Posted 12/28/2017  10:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dbrogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I am new to coin collecting, and I wasn't sure what grade this 1892 P Morgan silver dollar would be. The only thing that I do know is that 1892 Silver Dollars tend to be more on the rare side, and in terms of condition I was thinking it might be extremely fine teetering on about uncirculated, but I honestly don't know. Any guidance would be sincerely appreciated.




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 Posted 12/28/2017  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF-AU is probably about right for the details of the coin. Unfortunately, it's quite likely to have been cleaned in a manner that is not considered market-acceptable, which I can't confirm from the pictures.

If you are new to collecting, welcome to the hobby, but you owe it to yourself to find people who can help you avoid purchasing mistakes. While purchasing coins certified by reputable grading services can protect you, be aware that not all entities that use slab-style holders for coins they grade are reputable. There's a good online grading guide at https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/ If you can get to a bigger show to look around and ask questions, that would be a great experience. If you are interested in investing in a classroom experience, the ANA Summer Seminar is also a great place to start. (Disclosure: I'm an instructor for the Morgan dollar class.)
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 Posted 12/28/2017  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the new pictures, the coin has been cleaned.
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 Posted 12/28/2017  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Your coin is graded by a service called SGS (Star Grading Service). Unfortunately, SGS is what is called a "basement slabber": a person who puts their coins in slabs themselves and sells them. SGS cannot be relied upon as a good grading service. The only grading services for US coins that can be relied on are PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG.
Your coin has been harshly cleaned, so its value is lower than that of an uncleaned coin. I would grade it as AU details, cleaned.
It is, unfortunately, not worth nearly as much as an uncleaned coin in Mint State (Uncirculated).
Try to buy coins that have not been cleaned or altered. Their value is much higher.
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au deets harshly cleaned. send it back if you can.

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 Posted 12/28/2017  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the quick and incredibly helpful responses! Thankfully (and unfortunately for my Uncle) this was part of a gift of coins he was passing to me. The bulk of the coins I received are fortunately not from SGS, and are either slabbed by himself (without cleaning) or from the ANACS.
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The coin is harshly cleaned, which will result in losing most of the value over the silver content.

If you bought it, then send it back.

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Learn what you can from your uncle if you can do so. Perhaps he has stories that can be passed down as well.
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EF details.



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to CCF. Not much more to add about this Morgan or SGS but if you have coins graded by ANACS they should be fine. Some people don't like the blue label slabs but the old white label and newer yellow label slabs tend to be accurate. They just don't command the premiums at auction as compared to NGC and PCGS.
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AU-50 details, cleaned
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i agree with all the comments...stay away...stay far away.
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