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1844 Half Farthing Variety

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 Posted 05/20/2008  9:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this beautiful coin at a dealer today. I saw something in the lettering under the loupe, but I didn't make the connection with the E/N variety listed in Krause until I got home. But clearly, under magnification, the E in REGINA is punched over an N. Perhaps someone with the Krause for this year can tell me what it says?

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detail of E/N:
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 Posted 05/20/2008  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I don't get very excited about errors, but that's quite nifty.
Thois almost compensates for missing out on that 1913 shilling !
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Thanks Peter! This more than makes up for losing the 1913
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Curious. My 4th ed. Krause doesn't list this variety. Or rather, it does, but doesn't explain what the variety is. It simply has two entries for 1844 half farthings, one at $5 in VF, the other at $25, but doesn't explain the difference. I can only assume it's the E/N variety.

The Spink catalogue tends to confirm this. It lists normal 1844 half-farthings at £3 in VF, with the "1844 E/N in REGINA" listed at £20.
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 Posted 05/20/2008  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap, that seems to be the general range I've seen via Google.
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I don't have the Krause but according to Collectors' Coins GB 2007, an EF is worth 80 GBP at the dealer level compared to 15 GBP for the regular variety. A clear diagonal bar there, and a very nice spot!
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05/21/2008 10:23 pm
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Investigating further, I began to wonder if lettering on the obverse varied from die to die, suggesting the legend was hand-punched, which might account for the E/N. I was curious how two obverse dies compared, so I overlaid an image of my coin with one from a non-E/N die:

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While not an exact overlay, the portrait, denticles, and most of the legend line up well, except where noted by arrows. In these places, you can see the ghost image of the letters at different angles. Those are where letter positions on my coin differ significantly.

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05/22/2008 5:39 pm
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Hi Kurt

Got my new toy today and here is a close up for that 1935 1/12 of shilling I was talking about,you can now see clearly the die break on it

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05/23/2008 12:52 pm
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Yes, I do--is that taken with your QX5? Nice!
Btw, I'm planning to pick up more State Quarters today...need any?
I'll send out the New Mexico quarters this weekend, and any others people need.
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 Posted 05/23/2008  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andre1621 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Kurt this is the one I'm glad to have this one this way no more problem to illustrated coins as close as it can be and yes I do nee the 2003 Maine P.And also the Presidential 2008 Adams P&D if you happen to see those I will pay for those .

Thank you Andre


Forgot to mention I will list a couple Canadian Coin in the Canadian forum with error .
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