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 Posted 02/18/2018  10:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dlangs56 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Why did/do people smooth (verb) surfaces on coins, and how was/is it done? What flaw is trying to be hidden/removed, and how does one detect such a thing?
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They're trying to Doctor the coin into a higher grade by removing imperfections and hoping no one notices the work they did.
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I don't know any specific methods. I'm not a coin MD.
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Smoothing of the fields often done with ancient coins.
The outlines of the figures and lettering are are more sharply defined with 'tooling', cleans up an encrusted coin.

Always lowers the value.
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For ancient coins "smoothing" is often done to remove evidence of patches of corrosion. A smoothed field looks better preserved than it actually was. It is usually done with a small grinding tool, or even a dental drill.

The term could also be applied to the act of putting a completely smooth surface on one side or the other. This may have been done to prepare the coin for engraving, as a love token or some similar repurposing. Such grinding flat is often done with a sander or lathe.

Finally, a similar effect can be given to a coin through "natural" use. The English pub gambling game of shove ha'penny, for example, is played with a halfpenny coin. Using the same coin on the game board over several decades will wear one side of the coin down until it is worn smooth.
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Then there is the issue of grafitti on the coin. Does the coin look better with a clean obverse field that has been smoothed or the grafitti that was originally there? Or a hole - does it look better plugged and then smoothed over than the see through variety? Most coin doctors seem to think so.
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Tooling and smoothing are just ways of making a bad problem not quite disappear. I would hazard a guess of about 90%+ of coins treated in that manner can be identified as such.

Changing the mint mark, or lack of one, or date is a much bigger concern for the average collector.
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Of course smoothing out a coin makes it easier to slide across a wet bar. Hey bartender, here is my money. Now shoot me a beer.
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