Not Exactly A Coin But.... | Ottoman Unofficial Medal

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ziggy9 Valued Member United States 499 Posts	Posted 05/31/2008 3:57 pm I received this with a large lot of coins that I have been asked to sell for a friend. I was hoping someone here could help identify and possibly give an approximate value to this item Image: wazzit1.jpg 78.88 KB Image: wazzit2.jpg 89.28 KB Thank you Richard Edited by Sap 06/05/2008 10:06 am Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 05/31/2008 4:32 pm The only help I can give you is that it appears to be from Turkey. Report this Post to the Staff
valutarick Valued Member Netherlands 376 Posts	Posted 06/01/2008 08:31 am Belly dancing. The one shows over here is placed at the hips of a harem dancer girl to show off her naked bellybutton. Portrait shown used to be their owner of the local shop/cafe she used to work in. Egyptian/Turkisch around world War I 1914-1918, used approximately till Second Worldwar, rememberin El Alamein and Tobroektimes... Report this Post to the Staff
stratocaster Valued Member United Kingdom 240 Posts	Posted 06/03/2008 11:32 am I can only say that the tugra roughly corresponds to the 31st Ottoman padishah (sultan), Abdulmecid I (Abdul-Mejid)[1839-1861]. The reign year, written with Arab figures under the tugra, is 10. This means 1849, though I can't say that this is the year the belly button was "minted". Abdulmecid was a respected sultan, so it might be possible that his tugra has a more commemorative role. I tried to find an achievement of his in the 10th regnal year, but I can only find trivial facts, none of which would deserve to be commemorated on a coin. Anyway, Abdulmecid seems to have been a very open-minded sultan, he tested for the first time the telegraph in Turkey, he imported western clothing, forbid the turban and introduced the traditional Turkish hat - the fez. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16832 Posts	Posted 06/05/2008 10:04 am I don't think there's much to add to this one, except to say that it's definitely not a coin or an official medal. Valutarick's theory is plausible. The number "10" beneath the toughra on the "medal" which stratocaster mentioned has beneath it the Arabic letter "p", as seen on coins where "p" is short for "para", a Turkish/Ottoman denomination. This may mean this medal was copied from a 10 para coin, rather than being "Year 10" of the reign of the named Sultan. The 5-fingered "hand with two thumbs" appears to be a variation of the hamsa, also known as the "hand of Fatima" or "hand of Miriam", an Arabic/Jewish symbol used on charms and amulets. Trivia: the hamsa forms part of the Algerian coat of arms and as such, appears on some older Algerian coins like this one. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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