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1806 Half-Penny No Berries Near Unc!

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 Posted 06/08/2008  05:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just got this near-UNC lovely Half-Penny of 1806 - looks quite dirty and I'm afraid to clean it for obvious reasons.
There is a scratch on the reverse coming down from the T and going through Britannia's head and trident but apart from that it has some original lustre and looks a little better in hand as this wasn't my best photography.
(Actually I'm wondering if that's a scratch or a die crack...)
**I think it's the latter

What do you think, anyone like it?

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06/08/2008 05:36 am
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 Posted 06/08/2008  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greeniejim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A really lovely looking coin Matty, I would almost certainly say the scratch is a Die Flaw, as it seems to be also along the top of R-I-T then extends downward through the head and the trident, but none the less a realy lovely coin.
Jim
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 Posted 06/08/2008  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jim, the die flaw that goes all the way through the trident actually seems to come from the rim before the 'T'
The flaw you noticed is different - also, what do you think about the other 'scratches' on this coin - which ones are flaws and which actually scratches?
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 Posted 06/08/2008  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, beautiful coin.
Is that another crack from the elbow to 4 o'clock ?
The obverse is remarkably uncirculated. I wonder if the "scratches" on the reverse field were on the die, rather than post-mint damage ?
Peter
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 Posted 06/08/2008  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's sure a nice one!
I'd also agree--that's a crack from the T through Britannia and all the way to the base of the A.
Peter, I'd agree too--that's a start of another crack at 4:00. There's another through RIT, and perhaps one below the extended arm?
It also looks like the 8 in the date punch may be broken--a common place for these punches to break in US or UK coins of this period.

I particularly like the strike of this coin, and an interesting detail on the reverse--notice how one tine of the trident looks sharply bent? I haven't seen that on other 1806 Half pennies so far.
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06/08/2008 2:18 pm
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 Posted 06/08/2008  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin! Yeah, don't clean it for any reason.
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 Posted 06/09/2008  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't ever plan on cleaning it - this is my best coin so far :)
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G'day,
quote: "notice how one tine of the trident looks sharply bent? I haven't seen that on other 1806 Half pennies so far."
- nor have I, but I have noticed it on fishing spears: aim at fish; hit rock. Then you learn why everybody says "don't hold it too tight".
I have now decided that this halfpenny is even more beautiful than the first time I looked at it.

quote: "and perhaps one below the extended arm?"
- yes, I see it now; vertical, then heads south-west.

Should have said this earlier: great photography.

Peter in Oz


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 Posted 06/09/2008  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, and you have intrigued me a little as I never noticed the 'bentness' of that upper tine.
My photography was slightly off when I made it ;) - it's slightly blurred at the bottom, but
still the lighting was sufficient.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your photograph is good enough to capture those interesting details
Flat-field shots of coins are pretty tough without a specialized macro lens.
Then there's the matter of getting lens and coin stage perpendicular--it's a challenge for me!
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06/10/2008 12:26 am
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 Posted 06/10/2008  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
quote: "Then there's the matter of getting lens and coin stage perpendicular--it's a challenge for me!"
- I put my coin on a table near a window: where I live, there is plenty of light throughout the day, at least from May to October.
I have a little tripod which screws into my digital camera. The head of the tripod rotates through 90 deg., which gets the camera pointing down vertically. I have to adjust the legs, which are telescopic, so the camera doesn't tip over, and so the coin is nearly centred, and at the maximum of my optical zoom.
I check from the side, to see tham everything is plumb.
When I finish with one coin, I just have to remove it, and put the next in its place, and I'm ready to go.
This onlly takes about a minute to set up.
The tripod cost $9.95, and folds up small enough to fit in my camera case: a very neat unit.
Peter

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 Posted 06/10/2008  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Peter for the tip! I do all right with my camera/tripod, although my macro lens has a very narrow depth of field, requiring careful alignment to the coin. Someday I'll devise a foolproof solution, but until then...it's all by eye.
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06/10/2008 02:35 am
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