Need Help To ID Two Byzantine Scyphate Coins

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Seeker55 Pillar of the Community United States 634 Posts	Posted 03/12/2018 4:33 pm Here are two bronze scyphate coins attributed by the previous owner to Theodore Angelus Commenus, Ducas of Thessalonia 1222-1230 AD. However, I haven't been able to find either of these in the Wildwinds database (at http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/byz/...re_I/t.html) under Theodore Commenus Ducas of Thessalonia, or under a couple of rulers before and after, and am confused by the many similar coins. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Coin 1: Weight 1.95 g, max diameter 21 mm The attribution given by the previous owner is: Theodore Angelus Commenus, Ducas of Thessalonia 1222-1230 AD. Obv: Theodore, Rev: Christ Refs Goodacre #4, R #2221 Coin 2: Weight 2.51 g, 28.7 mm The attribution given by the previous owner is: Theodore Angelus Commenus, Ducas of Thessalonia 1222-1230 AD. Obv: Theodore facing holding cross and being crowned by Saint Demetrius standing R. Rev: Christ seated facing on throne. IC-XC Refs Ratto 2273, Sear 2089 (I can't find a Sear 2089 listed online, and unfortunately don't have the Ratto book) Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/12/2018 7:50 pm First one is Manuel I, a variation on SB-1966. The second one is being a little difficult to pin down but I still checking. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/12/2018 8:07 pm My best guess for #2 is Isaac II? I wish there was a little more detail on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
Seeker55 Pillar of the Community United States 634 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 09:49 am Many thanks for your help, echizento. You certainly nailed the first one. Here are a couple more photos of the second one that might help. I'll also be posting a couple more unidentified Byzantine scyphates in a few minutes, and will greatly appreciate if if you'll be kind enough to take a look at those. Report this Post to the Staff
Seeker55 Pillar of the Community United States 634 Posts	Posted 03/14/2018 7:16 pm After looking through a lot of pictures on Wildwinds, found a pretty good match for the second coin, which has the letters KOMNN visible on the right of the reverse. So I'm going with SB 2062 of Theodore I, photo at http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/byz/...b2062_2.jpg. Report this Post to the Staff
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