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Would Like Some Opinions About Coins Bought Online Being Cleaned

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I ordered a couple rolls of pennies from an online site (not ebay) and was wondering if maybe some of them have possibly been cleaned. These are pics from a roll of 1970 d pennies I bought and they all look really good. I would guess they all would grade out in the 60's except maybe a few that have. Little black discoloration on them other than that they have awesome detail and color and all look to be really good strikes. I didn't order these for any particular reason other than they were priced at the cheapest end of the price spectrum in the website. I also bought some 68s LMC's and a couple 2009 rolls for the same reason but also because I like the 2009's. I haven't had a chance to go through all of them but I opened the 1970's and noticed some are very good condition with almost no marks or scratches and some look like they might have been cleaned. The attached pics show the difference between a coin with almost no marks and one that looks covered in them. Would just like some opinions on whether or not it's from being cleaned or just dinged up from other coins. Thanks in advance
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Cant tell from your pix and layout Which is which? the top looks MS, the 2nd looks too nicked to be uncirculated and has lost surface luster, too much "chatter" it seems, could just be long time bag storage and moved quite often, ? the mass pix shows nothing, some may be high AU and a couple MS, doesn't look like OBW to me

Those AREN'T bank wrapped rolls, not marked that way!
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I can't see anything wrong with cleaning a VF and below penny, if it has a rich deep chocolate patina, with good old soap 'n water. The patina will protect it from inorganic staining, just as with ancient bronze coins.
Most CRH'ers get their fingers dirty anyway, and it is OK if you wash them (coins and fingers).

If they have any luster and / red left, (coins, that is ), don't wash them in this way; such coins shouldn't need cleaning.

Acetone OK, but I think it is a bit of an overkill on pennies that are valued at less than 5 cents. Keep your acetone for the nicer coins.

I don't think cleaning any other sort of cleaning is advisable on any coin,

That would be my rule in deciding if I was to tolerate cleaning or not.
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The little black spots are called carbon spots. Need to see the reverse of the first two pics. First pic looks great,above average for an unc roll. The second pic looks average, maybe a bit below average for an unc roll. Can not tell about cleaning with the other pics,maybe not cleaned but just toned that way.
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I'm not spotting anything indicating cleaning. Cleaning a cent worth 5 cents or less is less likely.
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I'd be amazed that anyone would spend the time and money to clean coins of little value. However, you just don't really know about some people.
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Thanks for the info. It makes sense about the fact why wast the time and money. After looking at them a little closer I think it may just be "chatter". I know the 1970 d isn't known for awesome dd's but I actually found one of the L varieties and found a 2009 d formative years extra finger too. Not too bad for some test rolls
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I can't see anything wrong with cleaning a VF and below penny, if it has a rich deep chocolate patina, with good old soap 'n water.


That's a great way to lose a ton of money if you do that on the wrong date
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Not cleaned, either of them. Most of the 70D's I've seen look like that.....1971's and 72's frequently do too.
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The top large photos look unc. to me, 2nd example got kicked around a little more. Also notice the difference in the mintmark placement and clarity ; I recall noticing this in 1970 - they are all over the place ... pretty much fun for a cent apiece.
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Not cleaned, either of them. Most of the 70D's I've seen look like that.....1971's and 72's frequently do too.

, maybe a gram more copper to the mix .
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