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 Posted 08/31/2018  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like any two digit radar but I must say I prefer the uniformity and look of one's like these two.

Cheers, Bill

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 Posted 08/31/2018  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I like any two digit radar but I must say I prefer the uniformity and look of one's like these two.


You found those 2 notes HB? Great finds if you did.

I actually found that 9696969 from a run of notes withdrawn from the bank. Ultimately, my best find (2 digit repeater, radar and rotator).

On a side note: I just met a collector at the recent RCNA grading workshop who pulled a commemorative "150" ten with the exact same number. I almost drooled when she showed me (& she said "no" it wasn't for sale).
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 Posted 09/01/2018  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quote: "You found those 2 notes HB? Great finds if you did."

Not personally, I had a friend that worked for brinks filling ATM machines so I gave him a list of serial numbers of notes to pull for me. I did get them for face value though + a beer.

Quote: "I actually found that 9696969 from a run of notes withdrawn from the bank. Ultimately, my best find (2 digit repeater, radar and rotator).

This note is a 2 digit Repeater/Radar but it's not a rotator/swims note.
In order for it to be a rotator it has to read the same upside down as it does right side up.
There are 128 serial numbers in a 10 million run that are rotators of these there's only 13 two digit radar/rotator's in the 10 million.
All thirteen have a serial number that can contain "0"s and "8"s only.
A 2 digit Repeater/Radar/rotator note is very very rare note indeed there is only one serial number available in the 10 million printed 0808080 making it more rare then the million numbered notes.

The note below is not a radar but it is a three digit repeater/rotator. (reading the same upside down)

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 09/01/2018  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prefix-kix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A 2 digit Repeater/Radar/rotator note is very very rare note indeed there is only one serial number available in the 10 million printed 0808080 making it more rare then the million numbered notes.


Hmmm, me thinks 8080808 iz one too?

Howz zbout all theze?

0008000
0088800
0800080
0880880
0888880
8000008
8008008
8088808
8800088
8880888

2 digit repeaterz/radarzz/rotatorzzz....
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 Posted 09/02/2018  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not personally, I had a friend that worked for brinks filling ATM machines so I gave him a list of serial numbers of notes to pull for me. I did get them for face value though + a beer.

Wow- great friend!

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In order for it to be a rotator it has to read the same upside down as it does right side up.

-Guess, I heard that wrong somewhere: that it was a legit number upside down or right side up- so thanks for the demo/clarification.

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me thinks 8080808 iz one too

- yeah I think the radars with the 0's & 8's are the easiest to identify (its the 9's and 6's that get a little more tricky).
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 Posted 09/02/2018  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prefix-kix, I thank you.
You are correct in your assessment and I should have been more careful and specific.
I hastily put together a list and should have taken more time to double check before I posted my reply.
I now realize I've made a couple of errors or omissions.
I hope the list below is correct and more understandable

0008000 = AAABAAA = 0008-000 - repeats after the fourth number.
0080800 = AABABAA = 00808-00 - repeats after the fifth number.
0088800 = AABBBAA = 00888-00 - repeat after the fifth number.
0800080 = ABAAABA = 0800-080 - repeat after the fourth number.
0808080 = ABABABA = 08-08-08-0 - repeats after the second number.
0880880 = ABBABBA = 088-088-0 - repeats after the third number.
0888880 = ABBBBBA = 088888-0 - repeats after the sixth number.
8000008 = BAAAAAB = 800000-8 - repeats after the sixth number.
8008008 = BAABAAB = 800-800-8 - repeats after the third number.
8080808 = BABABAB = 80-80-80-8 - repeats after the second number.
8088808 = BABBBAB = 8088-808 - repeats after the fourth number.
8800088 = BBAAABB = 88000-88 - repeats after the fifth number.
8808088 = BBABABB = 88080-88 - repeats after the fifth number.
8880888 = BBBABBB = 8880-888 - repeats after the fourth number.

All of these are two digit radar/rotator serial numbers.
However they are not all repeaters with a two digit cycle as only 0808080 & 8080808 are repeaters with a two digit cycle such as the serial number (9696969) in the post to which I was replying.
I apologize to all for any misinformation in the original reply.
In conclusion there are 14.
This is how I understand what I've read but if I'm in error again please by all means correct me.

Cheers, Bill

(List corrected as per following post)
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09/03/2018 08:46 am
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 Posted 09/02/2018  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prefix-kix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hounddog
Ahh-wooooooo! Ahh-wooooooo!! Woof!
I hope I pronounced that correctly.
(I better stick to human my K9 is a little rusty.)
I was only playing with you a little bit before.
And you seemed to take it pretty good so now I'm going to get your tail again.

0000000 & 8888888 are not a two digit repeater/radar/rotator, can you guess why?

That's right, they only have one digit.
Good Boy! I wish I had a treat for you.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I made the correction to my earlier post.
I'm all for a treat, this Hounddog likes beer.

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 11/23/2018  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just picked this up at the Bank machine.
It has a major crease and a couple of minor ones so I will probably just spend it.
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 Posted 11/24/2018  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It has a major crease and a couple of minor ones so I will probably just spend it.


Still a low number - nice find! I rarely find these (below 1000) and have kept every one of them (unless they've got graffiti or are heavily soiled).
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 Posted 12/22/2018  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trikdoutcobalt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides radars and solids I've never paid much attention to anything else. Are there any prefixes to look through that are extremely rare for the polymer notes? I work at a currency exchange and have a lot of cash running through my till every day and don't really know what prefixes I'm looking for lol
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 Posted 12/22/2018  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first post shows the BSW for the twenties (it is very tough to find in any grade).
For other tough polymer (Frontiers) prefixes
Go to the thread: Reporting Recent Prefixes
http://goccf.com/t/319056

and find the table I inserted on page 1. It shows both change-overs (c) and short prefixes (s).

You must be also aware that some signature change-overs (meaning the signature has changed) are quite common (like the FTH $10 Macklem/Poloz) and that the Charlton Canadian Government Paper Money catalogue hasn't caught up to this fact (as they list the common M/P FTH $10 change-over with a higher BV). The Macklem/Carney FTH $10 is extremely rare and tough to find. I've searched tens of thousands of tens and found one.

The same can be said for the Macklem/Carney AMK (& to a lesser extent the GHD) $50. Last year, the guide caught up to the fact that the $100 EKZ is short but I've never seen one (& again the BV very conservative). I have search thousands of this denomination and haven't found one.

Tough (but not impossible) polymer prefixes also include the $20 Wilkins/Poloz FVP (& to a lesser extent the non-commemorative FWW). Plus the CDF of the "150" commemorative $10 can be tough to find as well. I know no tough prefixes for the polymer five. I have found a few of each in circulated condition.

Good luck!

W2W
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 Posted 12/22/2018  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trikdoutcobalt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much! I'll keep a better eye out from now on!
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 Posted 12/23/2018  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks so much!

-You're quite welcomed.

Although data is still being received by the Canadian Paper Money Forum (CPMF) Serial Number Data Base (SNDB) only small ranges of notes are usually discovered on these short change-overs (or short prefixes). Macklem/Carney GHD $50 is another case in point with very few found in a very low number range and quite a few more found in the higher # range.

Also see the thread on:
Rare Notes (Circulation Finds)
http://goccf.com/t/318764

My post on the FTH Macklem/Carney $10 (to give you an idea of the serial number range you're looking for). Most FTH tens have serial numbers that are higher than 8.4M
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