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PCGS Says Not A Variety They Do 1858 DDO Flying Eagle Fs101 S2

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Yet they encouraged us to re-submit it for variety attribution for additional cost of course. So frustrating now they still aren't labeling this coin as DDO when the eagle beak, lettering and date are clearly doubled. Ugh As a courtesy PCGS says they'll send it through a 3rd time. http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/37382
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Sharper close-ups of the date please.
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Please include full pics of both obverse and reverse and close-ups of all doubled areas. This is an interesting coin, separate from your thoughts about pricing (sorry, if you want attribution, you have to pay for it to begin with, makes sense).

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I would not submit it again.

It is clear they will not grade it correctly so I would not waste my money on it.
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It graded VF25 but thought PCGS would label it Double Die, doesn't sound like that's going to happen.
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Looks like MDD ( Machine Doubling damage) Do you have images of the other areas of doubling? It's possible the lettering could also be Longacre doubling. The fact that the doubling on the date and the eagles leg/claw being the same points at MDD and not a repunched date. and as a point of information a doubled die will NOT show on the date of these coins. The die was completed before the date was added.
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Thanks Conder101 for your take. The additional confusion on whether DDO or MDD is PCGS's Coinfacts page at: http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/37382 The variety shown on their page has the same doubling as our example.
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The Coinfacts page doesn't give any pickup points for where the DDO shows and they picked a very poor coin to illustrate the variety (if that is what it really is) because the coin they show has a severe case of MDD. I did not see a DDO on that coin. Anyone have CPG pictures of the variety?
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